La GUERRE 2.0

Sujet: La GUERRE 2.0 29/11/2011, 13:00

> Un petit robot révolutionnaire va être testé en Afghanistan par l'armée américaine. Ce concentré de technologie pourra effectuer des missions d'espionnage jusqu'alors impossibles.

Citation :: «The Sand Flea» a été réalisé par l'entreprise Boston Dynamics.

http://www.20min.ch/ro/news/insolite/story/30319181

De la taille d'un ordinateur portable dernier cri, «The Sand Flea» est équipé d'une caméra et est monté sur quatre roues. Il pèse environ 4,5 kg et peut effectuer des bonds jusqu'à 24 pieds de haut (plus de 7 mètres) pour franchir des obstacles tout en atterrissant sans dommage sur ses roues.

</embed><br /><br />Le colonel Peter Newell qui dirige la Force d'équipement rapide (The Army’s Rapid Equipping Force/REF) indique en avoir commandé huit exemplaires pour les soumettre cet hiver sur le terrain à l'appréciation de ses hommes, indique le magazine spécialisé «Marine Times». Si les résultants sont probants, il serait envisageable que des milliers de ces mini robots-sauteurs soient recrutés pour servir lors d'opérations militaires notamment à Sangin, au sud de Kaboul.<br /><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_arrow.gif" alt="Arrow" longdesc="19" /> Les autres robots guerriers du futur :<br /><br /><strong>Big Dog Evolution</strong><br /><br /><iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/xqMVg5ixhd0?version=3&hl=fr_FR&rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="640" height="360" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed><br /><br /><strong>Alpha Dog</strong> <br /><br /><iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/SSbZrQp-HOk?version=3&hl=fr_FR&rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="640" height="360" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed><br /><br /><strong>Petman</strong> <br /><br /><iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/mclbVTIYG8E?version=3&hl=fr_FR&rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="640" height="360" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></dd> </dl><br /><strong>> Et ce n'est qu'un commencement ...</strong> <img src="/users/3212/14/67/43/smiles/620874.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 620874" longdesc="69" /> </div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>J'aime</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Je n'aime pas</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--142761" style=""><td class="row1 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Revenir en haut" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Aller en bas" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row1 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> <a href="http://ump25.probb.fr/forum.htm" title="Visiter le site web de l'utilisateur" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/subsilver/icon_www.gif" alt="http://ump25.probb.fr/forum.htm" /></a> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--142763" id="p142763" style=""><td class="row2" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="142763" style="position: relative; 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top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="142767"></a><strong>Ungern</strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile"><br /><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3212/14/67/43/avatars/77-67.jpg" alt="Ungern" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;"></span></span> <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/subsilver/icon_minigender_male.gif" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /> <span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Nombre de messages</span> : </span> 17713<br /><span class="label">Date d'inscription : </span> 18/05/2009<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row2" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img class="sprite-icon_minipost" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" />Sujet: Re: La GUERRE 2.0   <img class="sprite-icon_miniposted" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" border="0" />29/11/2011, 16:30</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div><strong>Tout plein de trucs intéressants "ici":</strong><br /><br /><br />http://pourquoietcomment.voila.net/b.textes.pdf/Militaire/06CombatUrbain_Armesadaptees.pdf<br /><br /><br /><br />http://palestine1967.voila.net/photo/P.photos.armesspeciales.htm<br /><br />http://palestine1967.voila.net/territoire/T.territoire.gaza.deuxiememur.htm<br /><br />http://palestine1967.voila.net/arme.armee/A.arme.nonlethalesonore.htm <br /><br /><br /><br /><strong>N'oubliez pas; à chaque "clic", j'encaisse !!!</strong> <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_clown.png" alt="clown" longdesc="28" /> </div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>J'aime</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Je n'aime pas</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--142767" style=""><td class="row2 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Revenir en haut" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Aller en bas" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row2 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> <a href="http://hadrianwall.site.voila.fr" title="Visiter le site web de l'utilisateur" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/subsilver/icon_www.gif" alt="http://hadrianwall.site.voila.fr" /></a> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--142768" id="p142768" style=""><td class="row1" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="142768" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="142768"></a><strong>Charly</strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile"><br /><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3212/14/67/43/avatars/47-12.jpg" alt="Charly" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;"></span></span> <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/subsilver/icon_minigender_male.gif" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /> <span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Nombre de messages</span> : </span> 23689<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Localisation</span> : </span> belgique<br /><span class="label">Date d'inscription : </span> 30/11/2008<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row1" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img class="sprite-icon_minipost" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" />Sujet: Re: La GUERRE 2.0   <img class="sprite-icon_miniposted" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" border="0" />29/11/2011, 16:41</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div><dl class="codebox"> <dt><span class="genmed"><b>Ungern a écrit:</b></span></dt> <dd class="quote"><strong>Tout plein de trucs intéressants "ici":</strong><br /><br /><br />http://pourquoietcomment.voila.net/b.textes.pdf/Militaire/06CombatUrbain_Armesadaptees.pdf<br /><br /><br /><br />http://palestine1967.voila.net/photo/P.photos.armesspeciales.htm<br /><br />http://palestine1967.voila.net/territoire/T.territoire.gaza.deuxiememur.htm<br /><br />http://palestine1967.voila.net/arme.armee/A.arme.nonlethalesonore.htm <br /><br /><br /><br /><strong>N'oubliez pas; à chaque "clic", j'encaisse !!!</strong> <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_clown.png" alt="clown" longdesc="28" /> </dd> </dl><br />Dis-moi,Ungern,pourquoi n'émigres-tu pas en Palestine pour aider<br />tes frères ? <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_rr.png" alt="afro" longdesc="60" /> <br />[b]</div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>J'aime</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Je n'aime pas</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--142768" style=""><td class="row1 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Revenir en haut" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Aller en bas" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row1 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--142769" id="p142769" style=""><td class="row2" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="142769" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="142769"></a><strong>Ungern</strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile"><br /><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3212/14/67/43/avatars/77-67.jpg" alt="Ungern" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;"></span></span> <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/subsilver/icon_minigender_male.gif" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /> <span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Nombre de messages</span> : </span> 17713<br /><span class="label">Date d'inscription : </span> 18/05/2009<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row2" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img class="sprite-icon_minipost" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" />Sujet: Re: La GUERRE 2.0   <img class="sprite-icon_miniposted" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" border="0" />29/11/2011, 16:42</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div><strong>Je préfre gagner des sous ici avec mes sites .... <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_clown.png" alt="clown" longdesc="28" /> <br />Coco a du te le dire ....</strong></div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>J'aime</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Je n'aime pas</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--142769" style=""><td class="row2 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Revenir en haut" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Aller en bas" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row2 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> <a href="http://hadrianwall.site.voila.fr" title="Visiter le site web de l'utilisateur" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/subsilver/icon_www.gif" alt="http://hadrianwall.site.voila.fr" /></a> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--142819" id="p142819" style=""><td class="row1" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="142819" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="142819"></a><strong>Biloulou</strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile"><br /><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3212/14/67/43/avatars/2-43.gif" alt="Biloulou" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;"></span></span> <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/subsilver/icon_minigender_male.gif" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /> <span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Nombre de messages</span> : </span> 54566<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Localisation</span> : </span> Jardins suspendus sur la Woluwe - Belgique<br /><span class="label">Date d'inscription : </span> 27/10/2008<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row1" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img class="sprite-icon_minipost" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" />Sujet: Re: La GUERRE 2.0   <img class="sprite-icon_miniposted" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" border="0" />30/11/2011, 14:06</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div><dl class="codebox"> <dt><span class="genmed"><b>Ungern a écrit:</b></span></dt> <dd class="quote"><strong>Je préfre gagner des sous ici avec mes sites .... <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_clown.png" alt="clown" longdesc="28" /> <br />Coco a du te le dire ....</strong><br /></dd> </dl>Il doit y avoir plein d'erreurs, dès le premier clic je tombe sur le Mur de la honte comme un sujet d'actualité.<br />Or le Mur de la honte a été démoli en 1989...<br /><br />Prépare-toi à me rembourser. 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Elle a depuis été employée dans d’autres contextes pour désigner négativement tout mur ou toute barrière de séparation qui, du point de vue des personnes qui utilisent l'expression, devraient faire honte à ses initiateurs ou à une communauté plus large qui soutient la séparation ou reste passive devant l'état de fait.<br /><br />Ce sont souvent les circonstances de la construction ou les objectifs recherchés qui justifieraient, pour ces mêmes personnes, l'idée d'un déshonneur apporté par l'édifice.<br /><br />L'usage de cette expression est le plus généralement remis en cause et réfuté par la partie (<i>mettons genre notre ami Biloulouchio au long-très-long-long-nez</i>) qui justifie la séparation.<br /><br />Au sens figuré, l'expression a pu également être employée pour désigner une ségrégation (comme au sujet de l’apartheid).<br /><br />Exemples de séparations ayant déjà été désignées comme Mur de la honte[:<br /><br /> Rideau de fer<br /> Mur de Berlin<br /> Mur marocain (au Sahara occidental)<br /> Barrière de séparation israélienne<br /> Zone coréenne démilitarisée<br /> la ligne verte à Chypre qui sépare la République de Chypre de la partie orientale envahie par les Turcs depuis 1974<br /> les frontières de l’Union européenne (en particulier des clôtures des enclaves de Ceuta et Melilla)<br /> le projet de construction d’un mur de 1 100 kilomètres le long de la frontière entre les États-Unis et le Mexique destiné à empêcher l'immigration clandestine en provenance du sud<br /> La construction par l'Arabie saoudite depuis 2006 d'un mur fortifié à sa frontière avec l'Irak<br /> Les lignes de séparation entre les communautés religieuses de Belfast, aussi appelées Murs de la paix</strong><br /><br /><span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal"><strong>Source: Wikipedia<br /></strong></span></div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--142844" style=""><td class="row2 browse-arrows" 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18:23</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div><dl class="codebox"> <dt><span class="genmed"><b>Pétard a écrit:</b></span></dt> <dd class="quote"><strong><i>Nice try</i>, comme dirait l'autre, mais un coup d"épée dans l'eau, comme d'hab!</strong><br /></dd> </dl>Bonjour <strong>David,</strong> heureux de te lire <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_sunny.png" alt="sunny" longdesc="46" /> <br /><br />Un coup d'épée dans la marre qui a quand même réussi à t'arracher un sourire. <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7" /> <br />Pas trop mal, j'espère ? <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" longdesc="9" /> <br /><br /><i>(Note que chacun utilise "mur de la honte" selon ses options personnelles, donc ça révèle ses choix, même les plus... honteux)</i> <img 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18:39</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="vote gensmall"><div class="vote-bar" title="Réputation du message : 0% (1 vote)"><div class="vote-bar-minus" style="height:50px;"></div></div></div><div class="postbody"><div><strong>Effectivement,il y a "Mur de la Honte" et "Mur de la Honte" .<br /><br />On voit tout de suite la différence ....<br />Il y en a une en couleur et l'autre en N/B...<br /><br />La différence saute aux yeux .... <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_clown.png" alt="clown" longdesc="28" /> </strong><br /><br /><br /><img src="https://2img.net/h/palestine1967.voila.net/images/avantapres/avantapresmurghettovarsovie.gif" border="0" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Avantapresmurghettovarsovie"/> <img src="https://2img.net/h/palestine1967.voila.net/images/avantapres/avantapresmurjerusalem01.jpg" border="0" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 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class="genmed"><b>Ungern a écrit:</b></span></dt> <dd class="quote">La différence saute aux yeux .... </dd> </dl><br /><br />Eh oui. <br />Dans un cas on voulait interdir aux gens de se rejoindre, dans l'autre, on essaie de les empêcher de se taper sur la fiole.<br /><br /><br />Mab</div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--142854" style=""><td class="row1 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Revenir en haut" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Aller en bas" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row1 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--142855" id="p142855" style=""><td class="row2" 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Mab a une pustule dans l'hasbara ?<br />Veux-tu rester poli, s'il te paît ! <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_eek.gif" alt="Shocked" longdesc="5" /> <br /><br /><i>(Et le secret médical, tu le mets où ?)</i> <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/suspect.gif" alt="Suspect" longdesc="23" /> </div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 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valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div>Roooo... <img src="/users/3212/14/67/43/smiles/303142.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 303142" longdesc="99" /> </div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>J'aime</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Je n'aime pas</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--142862" style=""><td class="row1 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Revenir en haut" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Aller en bas" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row1 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--142864" id="p142864" style=""><td class="row2" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="142864" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="142864"></a><strong>Lawrence</strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile"><br /><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3212/14/67/43/avatars/209-89.gif" alt="Lawrence" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;"></span></span> <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/subsilver/icon_minigender_male.gif" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /> <span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Nombre de messages</span> : </span> 11709<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Age</span> : </span> 79<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Localisation</span> : </span> Marbella<br /><span class="label">Date d'inscription : </span> 20/09/2010<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row2" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img class="sprite-icon_minipost" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" />Sujet: Re: La GUERRE 2.0   <img class="sprite-icon_miniposted" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" border="0" />30/11/2011, 19:49</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div><dl class="codebox"> <dt><span class="genmed"><b>Biloulou a écrit:</b></span></dt> <dd class="quote">Roooo... <img src="/users/3212/14/67/43/smiles/303142.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 303142" longdesc="99" /> </dd> </dl><br />Un reservorio de armas que datan de la Guerra de la Independencia de 1948 fue descubierto en una sinagoga en Magdiel, Hod Hasharón, el jueves.<br /><br />La policía dijo que las armas fueron encontradas en el primer piso, escondidas en un arcón de madera, por trabajadores que estaban limpiando el área.<br /><br />Zapadores de la policía del subdistrito de Sharón retiraron las armas del edificio.<br /><br />La sinagoga fue usada como centro de operaciones por la Haganá durante los meses que precedieron a la declaración de la Independencia.<br /><br /><br /><br /> <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_scratch.png" alt="scratch" longdesc="56" /> </div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 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45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Je n'aime pas</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--142864" style=""><td class="row2 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Revenir en haut" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Aller en bas" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row2 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> <a 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/><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Localisation</span> : </span> Jardins suspendus sur la Woluwe - Belgique<br /><span class="label">Date d'inscription : </span> 27/10/2008<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row1" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img class="sprite-icon_minipost" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" />Sujet: Re: La GUERRE 2.0   <img class="sprite-icon_miniposted" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" border="0" />30/11/2011, 19:54</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div><dl class="codebox"> <dt><span class="genmed"><b>Lawrence a écrit:</b></span></dt> <dd class="quote">Un reservorio de armas que datan de la Guerra de la Independencia de 1948 fue descubierto en una sinagoga en Magdiel, Hod Hasharón, el jueves. (...) <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_scratch.png" alt="scratch" longdesc="56" /> <br /></dd> </dl>Donc, peu de chances que ce soit des armes pour la guerre 2.0 <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7" /> </div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>J'aime</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Je n'aime pas</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--142865" style=""><td class="row1 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Revenir en haut" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Aller en bas" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row1 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--142882" id="p142882" style=""><td class="row2" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="142882" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="142882"></a><strong>Alice</strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile"><br /><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3212/14/67/43/avatars/21-63.jpg" alt="Alice" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;"></span></span> <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/subsilver/icon_minigender_female.gif" alt="Féminin" title="Féminin" /> <span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Nombre de messages</span> : </span> 729<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Age</span> : </span> 48<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Localisation</span> : </span> Brüsel<br /><span class="label">Date d'inscription : </span> 04/11/2008<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row2" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img class="sprite-icon_minipost" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" />Sujet: Re: La GUERRE 2.0   <img class="sprite-icon_miniposted" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" border="0" />30/11/2011, 23:09</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div><dl class="codebox"> <dt><span class="genmed"><b>Mara-des-bois a écrit:</b></span></dt> <dd class="quote"><dl class="codebox"> <dt><span class="genmed"><b>Ungern a écrit:</b></span></dt> <dd class="quote">La différence saute aux yeux .... </dd> </dl><br /><br />Eh oui. <br />Dans un cas on voulait interdir aux gens de se rejoindre, dans l'autre, on essaie de les empêcher de se taper sur la fiole.<br /><br /><br />Mab</dd> </dl><br />Non. Dans le premier cas, on a parqué plus de 4OOOOO personnes dans moins de 3,5 km2, en fournissant des rations alimentaires d'environ 2OO calories par jour et par personne (je laisse Ungern chercher combien de calories un adulte ayant une activité normale consomme par jour...), sur ces 400000 personnes, un peu plus de la moitié (250000 personnes) furent envoyé dans un camp d'extermination où ils furent gazés, 100 000 autres moururent de faim ou de maladie, ou abattus par les nazis. Tous cela en moins de trois ans.<br /><br />J'attends qu'Ungern donne les chiffres correspondants pour le second cas, et remettent en perspective la construction de cette barrière.<br />Pour ma part, je pense savoir un peu de quoi je parle, ayant ou ayant eu des proches conernés par les deux cas... ceux du premiers cas n'y ont pas survécus (que Dieu venge leur sang), ceux du second cas ont pu ainsi éviter de voir leurs gosses se faire tirer comme des pigeons par des snipers palestiniens en rentrant de l'école...<br /></div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>J'aime</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Je n'aime pas</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--142882" style=""><td class="row2 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Revenir en haut" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Aller en bas" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row2 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--142883" id="p142883" style=""><td class="row1" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="142883" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="142883"></a><strong>Ungern</strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile"><br /><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3212/14/67/43/avatars/77-67.jpg" alt="Ungern" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;"></span></span> <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/subsilver/icon_minigender_male.gif" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /> <span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Nombre de messages</span> : </span> 17713<br /><span class="label">Date d'inscription : </span> 18/05/2009<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row1" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img class="sprite-icon_minipost" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" />Sujet: Re: La GUERRE 2.0   <img class="sprite-icon_miniposted" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" border="0" />30/11/2011, 23:43</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div><strong>La fin justifie les moyens ?...</strong></div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>J'aime</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Je n'aime pas</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--142883" style=""><td class="row1 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Revenir en haut" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Aller en bas" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row1 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> <a href="http://hadrianwall.site.voila.fr" title="Visiter le site web de l'utilisateur" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/subsilver/icon_www.gif" alt="http://hadrianwall.site.voila.fr" /></a> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--142887" id="p142887" style=""><td class="row2" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="142887" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="142887"></a><strong>EddieCochran</strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile">Admin<br /><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3212/14/67/43/avatars/14-51.jpg" alt="EddieCochran" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;"></span></span> <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/subsilver/icon_minigender_male.gif" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /> <span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Nombre de messages</span> : </span> 12768<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Age</span> : </span> 64<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Localisation</span> : </span> Countat da Nissa<br /><span class="label">Date d'inscription : </span> 03/11/2008<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row2" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img class="sprite-icon_minipost" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" />Sujet: Re: La GUERRE 2.0   <img class="sprite-icon_miniposted" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" border="0" />1/12/2011, 00:10</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div>19 -<br /><br /> <dl class="codebox"> <dt><span class="genmed"><b>Citation :</b></span></dt> <dd class="quote"> <strong><font color="red">que Dieu venge leur sang</font></strong> </dd> </dl><br />Ce n'est pas très chrétien cet appel au meurtre. Le Père Dilleux en Charles Broson le Justicier dans la ville, on aura tout vu !<br /><br />Je pense que la vraie question posée dans ce fil porte sur les performances de l'espion électromécanique La Puce du sable. Le gadget à la Q est-il capable de sauter par dessus un mur de la honte quelconque pour aller voir se/ceux qui se cache/ent derrière. <br /><br />Si ça marchait, l'application grand public à destination d'une clientèle de voyeurs urbains connaîtra un succès commercial fou. Imaginez toutes ces petites ménagères de moins de cinquante printemps vivant en rez-de-jardin essayant de savoir ce qui se trame de coquin dans les jardins suspendus sur la Woluwe ... </div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>J'aime</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Je n'aime pas</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--142887" style=""><td class="row2 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Revenir en haut" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Aller en bas" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row2 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--143249" id="p143249" style=""><td class="row1" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="143249" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="143249"></a><strong>Alice</strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile"><br /><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3212/14/67/43/avatars/21-63.jpg" alt="Alice" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;"></span></span> <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/subsilver/icon_minigender_female.gif" alt="Féminin" title="Féminin" /> <span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Nombre de messages</span> : </span> 729<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Age</span> : </span> 48<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Localisation</span> : </span> Brüsel<br /><span class="label">Date d'inscription : </span> 04/11/2008<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row1" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img class="sprite-icon_minipost" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" />Sujet: Re: La GUERRE 2.0   <img class="sprite-icon_miniposted" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" border="0" />3/12/2011, 21:25</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div>Bonsoir cher Eddie,<br /><br /> <dl class="codebox"> <dt><span class="genmed"><b>Citation :</b></span></dt> <dd class="quote">Citation: <br />que Dieu venge leur sang <br /><br /><br />Ce n'est pas très chrétien cet appel au meurtre. Le Père Dilleux en Charles Broson le Justicier dans la ville, on aura tout vu !<br /><br /></dd> </dl><br />Appel au meurtre ? Au contraire, cette formule, utilisée dans le judaisme en référence à nos "martyrs", est une barrière au meurtre vengeur.<br />La vengeance appartient à Dieu... et personne - personne - ne peut prétendre savoir en quoi consiste la-dite vengeance.<br /><br />Il s'agit justement d'une formule visant à canaliser la pulsion de vengeance humaine, à contenir la colère. Nous les juifs, nous ne crions pas "Dieu est grand" pour acclamer nos "martyrs" comme peuvent le faire les musulmans. Nous ne tendons pas non plus l'autre joue, comme prétendent souvent hypocritement le faire les chrétiens.<br />Mais quand nous pleurons nos morts assassinés sauvagement, nous nous en remettons à Dieu, sans angélisme hypocrite ni justification facile de la vengeance humaine (bon, pour être honnête, nous avons aussi nos groupuscules extrémistes qui prônent la vengeance en mode "humain"- tendance sectes religieuses sionistes tellement aveuglées par leur "attachement à la terre d'Israel", qu'ils en oublient que cet attachement ne trouve son sens que quand il est en équilibre avec les autres mitsvoth-valeurs de la Torah, et que sans cet équilibre, cet attachement n'est qu'idolatrie vide)<br /><br />Face aux miens assassinés lors de la Shoa, je ne peux pas me taire, je ne peux pas dire "Amen", je ne peux pas prendre un kalashnikov et détruire la descendance de toutes ces crapules par qui tout cela fût. Je m'en remets à Dieu, la "vengeance" est entre ses mains.<br /><br />Maintenant, par rapport au sujet de la guerre 2.0... je crois qu'aussi perfectionnés que soient tous ces gadgets, ils n'empêcheront jamais aux Hommes de faire la chose la plus universelle qui soit et ait jamais été : se taper sur la gueule (et y trouver du plaisir pour certains). <br />Tuer est la seule chose que l'Humain n'aie pas à apprendre (on peut lui apprendre à "raffiner" sa technique, pour être plus rapide, plus efficace, mais l'acte de tuer, ça ne s'apprend pas, tout humain est un meurtrier en puissance dès sa naissance...)</div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>J'aime</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Je n'aime pas</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--143249" style=""><td class="row1 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Revenir en haut" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Aller en bas" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row1 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--143252" id="p143252" style=""><td class="row2" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="143252" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="143252"></a><strong>Zed</strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile"><br /><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3212/14/67/43/avatars/32-15.jpg" alt="Zed" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;"></span></span> <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/subsilver/icon_minigender_male.gif" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /> <span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Nombre de messages</span> : </span> 16907<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Age</span> : </span> 59<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Localisation</span> : </span> Longueuil, Québec, Canada, Amérique du nord, planète Terre, du système solaire Galarneau de la voie lactée<br /><span class="label">Date d'inscription : </span> 13/11/2008<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row2" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img class="sprite-icon_minipost" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" />Sujet: Re: La GUERRE 2.0   <img class="sprite-icon_miniposted" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" border="0" />3/12/2011, 21:40</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div><strong>Si dieu avait de la vengeance ce serait comme un parent qui détruit un enfant pour un autre enfant.<br /><br />Il y a dans la famille tout une éducation pour arriver a être parent.</strong><br /><br /><strong>Je sais que l'enfant est souvant confronté a de l'inégalité commit par des frères stupides, mais celà n'est pas la volonté divine, c'est seulement l'immaturité inhérente au fait d'être libre.<br /><br />Comprennez donc que le cadeau divin est justement de pouvoir décider de ce qui est divin et de ce qui ne l'est pas.</strong></div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>J'aime</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Je n'aime pas</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--143252" style=""><td class="row2 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Revenir en haut" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Aller en bas" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row2 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--143254" id="p143254" style=""><td class="row1" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="143254" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="143254"></a><strong>Alice</strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile"><br /><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3212/14/67/43/avatars/21-63.jpg" alt="Alice" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;"></span></span> <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/subsilver/icon_minigender_female.gif" alt="Féminin" title="Féminin" /> <span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Nombre de messages</span> : </span> 729<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Age</span> : </span> 48<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f264f;">Localisation</span> : </span> Brüsel<br /><span class="label">Date d'inscription : </span> 04/11/2008<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row1" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img class="sprite-icon_minipost" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" />Sujet: Re: La GUERRE 2.0   <img class="sprite-icon_miniposted" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="La GUERRE 2.0 Empty" border="0" />3/12/2011, 21:48</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div>Bonsoir Zed,<br /><br />Je ne sais pas ce que toi tu mets dans le mot "vengeance", moi je m'en réfère à l'étymologie latine qui, si mes souvenirs d'école sont bons, signifie "réclamer en justice" (vindicere ?), dans le sens d'une réparation, d'un dédommagement moral de la victime...</div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>J'aime</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Je n'aime pas</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--143254" style=""><td class="row1 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Revenir en haut" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Aller en bas" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row1 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--143255" id="p143255" style=""><td class="row2" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="143255" style="position: relative; 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