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| Sujet: Al-Qaida's budget slips through the cracks 14/11/2008, 22:57 | |
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U.S. clamps down on banking transactions; terror group finds new funding
By Robert Windrem and Garrett Haake NBC News updated 7:56 a.m. ET Nov. 14, 2008 Seven years after the Sept. 11 attacks, U.S. intelligence officials believe they've won many small victories against al-Qaida's ability to finance its operations, but they remain unable to put a concrete dollar figure on their impact.
That's because they have no reliable estimate of al-Qaida's overall budget, according to current and former U.S. counterterrorism officials, which means the only measures of the organization's economic health are sporadic, anecdotal and fragmentary.
"When you see a cell complaining that it hasn't received its monthly or biannual stipend and it's unable to pay the salaries of the people in the cell, unable to make the support payments to the families of terrorists living or dead, that's a tremendous indicator we have pressured the financial channel," said Adam Szubin, the director of the U.S. Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control and the man in charge of tracking terrorist finance. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27644191 |
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| Sujet: 650- Vous me torturez.... 11/3/2009, 07:55 | |
| - Shansaa en 640 a écrit:
- Contexte de l'interview ou pas, un homme que ca ne generait pas de voir les testicules d'un enfant ecrasees pour faire parler son pere, est pour moi la pire des ordures.
Si vous trouvez une quelconque justification a ce genre de propos, libre a vous. Bonjour Shansaa ! Du peu que j'ai lu et de la méconnaissance totale que j'ai de ce monsieur, il me semble à le lire que ce n'est pas à lui ni à moi de trouver une justification ou pas au comportement décrit, d'être génés ou pas, mais au président. De plus, n'oublions pas qu'il s'agit d'un exemple extrême imaginé par l'interviewer, d'une caricature, nullement d'un cas avéré ni d'une méthode préconisée. Je me trompe ? - Citation :
- Vous avez vous meme dit dans votre message :
Et très franchement, il y a des méthodes chimiques pour obtenir des informations tellement plus faciles et sans risques...
Eh bien voila, ce n'est pas complique, ce n'est pas de la torture et c'est efficace. Ce n'est donc pas la peine de s'amuser a jouer les barbares comme ceux que nous accusons de l'etre. C'est bien pourquoi je ne pense pas que d'autres méthodes d'interrogatoire - j'entends par là la "question" moyênageuse - aient été ou soient utilisées. Je crois plutôt à du matériel rédactionnel pour "journalistes" en mal d'émotions lucratives à vendre. - Citation :
- Et excellente journée pour vous avec la conscience en paix, hein ?
Merci, ma conscience va bien et vous remercie Comme nous sommes beaux, gentils et urbains, n'est-ce pas ? Excellente journée, Shansaa ! | |
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| Sujet: 651 - Aie aie aie aie aie 11/3/2009, 10:02 | |
| Obama to Sign Spending Bill, Plans Earmark Reforms
President to sign a massive spending bill to keep the federal government running, but he is cracking down on lawmakers' penchant for stuffing such legislation with billions of dollars in pet projects. AP Wednesday, March 11, 2009
WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama plans to sign a massive spending bill to keep the federal government running, but he is cracking down on lawmakers' penchant for stuffing such legislation with billions of dollars in pet projects.
Obama could sign the $410 billion spending package as early as Wednesday, although he remains "troubled" by the so-called earmarks, funding for lawmakers' pet projects, in the bill that Republicans and moderate Democrats have eviscerated as unworthy wasteful spending. The president was to announce earmark reforms on Wednesday.
White House officials in recent weeks have dismissed criticism of the earmarks in the bill, saying the legislation was a remnant of last year and that the president planned to turn his attention to future spending instead of looking backward.
White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Obama would not be the first president to sign legislation that he viewed as less than ideal. Asked whether Obama had second thoughts about signing the bill, Gibbs' reply was curt: "No."
"This is necessary to continue funding government," Gibbs said. "It represents last year's business. Although it's not perfect, the president will sign the legislation, but demonstrate for all involved rules moving forward that he thinks can make this process work a little bit better."
It's that process that administration official planned to focus on Wednesday, not a bill signing that might take place in private. Aides said the administration would move to introduce new "rules of the road" that could allow Obama greater sway over lawmakers, particularly on politically embarrassing spending that generated mockery from pundits and rival politicians.
During his presidential campaign, Obama promised to force Congress to curb wasteful spending on pet projects for lawmakers' districts or states. Yet the bill sent from the Democratic-controlled Congress to the White House on Tuesday contained 7,991 earmarks totaling $5.5 billion, according to calculations by the Republican staff of the House Appropriations Committee.
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| Sujet: 652 - La propagande gauchiste 11/3/2009, 10:23 | |
| Bill se protege un peu en parlant: ultra-gauchisme. Ultra-gauchisme: Oui... et non, car enfin, et nous en avons l'exemple, de personnes eduquees se disant (peut-etre meme se considerent reellement) Democrates moderes et qui pourtant participent a ce "jeu" en propageant les articles dont le seul but est de detruire personnellement et professionnellement un opposant dangereux. Bill O'Reilly |
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| Sujet: 653 - Do as I say, not as I do - CHANGE! 11/3/2009, 11:06 | |
| ======= La caricature en dit deja long... A handful of aides are still spinning for the former president. Illustration by Matt Wuerker center] Scattered alumni still boost BushBy MIKE ALLENThe defense never rests. When President Barack Obama released his own policy this week on former President George W. Bush’s practice of attaching controversial signing statements to legislation, a reporter quickly got a tip from a Bush loyalist: the cell phone number for a White House lawyer in the past administration.
“The spin is bogus,” said William Burck, a former deputy White House counsel, in pushing back against early news accounts framing Obama’s action as a slap at his predecessor. In fact, Burck insisted, the new policy is no different from Bush’s.
Even though Bush is keeping quiet in Texas before heading out on a lucrative speaking tour, an informal network of former aides is keeping his views in the political bloodstream, defending his legacy in TV appearances and backgrounding reporters about his record.
Former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer calls the Bush pundits “a loose confederation of people united in our belief in what President Bush did, and we’re freer now to talk about some things than we used to be — good and bad.” The Bush defense forces include Fleischer; former press secretary Dana Perino; Bush political czar Karl Rove, who has contracts with Fox News, The Wall Street Journal and Newsweek; economics guru Tony Fratto; the prolific Peter Wehner, former director of the White House Office of Strategic Initiatives; and the graceful speechwriter Michael Gerson, who writes an opinion column for The Washington Post.The former aides are armed with many of the same arguments that they tried out on reporters when they strolled the hallways of the West Wing.
When CNN’s Larry King recently asked what Fleischer considered to be a hostile question about tax cuts, the president’s first press secretary pulled out an ancient talking point and reminded viewers that the nation “had a record-breaking 55 straight months of job creation and economic job growth” on Bush’s watch.
“We’re invited to comment on the events of the day and along the way, we remind people that there was, indeed, good news under President Bush,” Fleischer said.
Participants say the effort is not coordinated or organized but, rather, a natural result of the hunger by bookers and reporters to get the views of aides who approached the status of celebrity through their service in a two-term presidency. The Bush alumni said they make their points subtly — both because the former president does not want to feed an Obama vs. Bush story line and because they know they will never win that battle.
“Communications-wise, this tidal wave is going to have to wash on over everybody,” said Perino, Bush’s last press secretary. “We do what we can, and we believe that history will get it right in the end.”
A few days before Obama announced he was abolishing Bush-era limits on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research, Bush supporters who frequently appear on TV received an e-mail from an adviser saying: “I wanted to send you the following two documents on President Bush’s record on stem cell research: 1. a Bush White House fact sheet on President Bush’s record of advancing stem cell research in ethical, responsible ways and 2. a November 2007 Washington Post column by Charles Krauthammer, ‘Stem Cell Vindication.’”Recipients said the information was helpful and that they were struck by the fact that it wasn’t talking points — just a savvy reminder of points the press was likely to overlook.
So the Bush message persists in the punditry ether. On National Review Online, Yuval Levin, who worked on health issues as an associate director of Bush’s Domestic Policy Council, defended his boss’s approach to the stem cell decision: “Unfortunately, the political debate has yet to recover the kind of balanced understanding of the moral quandary that President Bush offered the country eight years ago.”
Jim Connaughton, the former chairman of Bush’s White House Council on Environmental Quality, popped up on Fox the other day talking about the president’s record on energy and the environment.
And Fratto, once a top spokesman for Bush’s Treasury Department and White House, talks to reporters about economic issues just about every day.
“A lot of us still hear from you guys, looking for reaction, especially when we’re attacked, like on the budget,” Fratto said. “There’s no coordinated effort to push back on these things, but if there’s a charge, we’ll set the record straight.”
Bush-era officials walk a fine line, and they know it. The outgoing administration, in the view of even the most partisan members of the Obama team, was hugely helpful and professional during the transition — a tone that clearly started in the Oval Office. Former presidents, by tradition, try to leave the stage to their successors*1, and Bush — who has been largely incognito except for a visit to a Dallas hardware store, has been no different. *2*1 Excepte carter *2 Bush 43 et Madame Bush ont fait leur premiere sortie apres avoir quitte la Maison Blanche lors d'un match a un lycee pres de chez eux sous les applaudissements du public. Mais c'est sans doute plus terre-a-terre de parler d'un voyage a la quincaillerie d'un president seul (meme pas accompagne de sa femme) ---------- Former White House aides from both parties also feel a bond with the new kids in town — particularly given the economic apocalypse that they face. Fratto says he often reminds reporters to give his successors at Treasury a break, since they have so much on their plate, “some of it of their own making, a lot of it that they had to pick up as they came in.” [/i] “That doesn’t always make the stories,” he said. Perino said her fellow alumni have no interest in “fanning the flames of Obama vs. Bush.” But sometimes the frustration does show. “For many years, we were accused of being too close to the Russians, right?” Perino said. “Too close to Putin — too friendly with them. And then on this recent trip, our new secretary of state wants to press the reset button and improve the relationship with Russia. And I think: Why isn’t there any critical thinking going on?”[/i] ============ Apres le depart de Bill, nous avions sans cesse Madeleine, Paul belaga, James Carville, entre autres sur l'ecran. Ce qui est drole vu qu'a part FOX News, la maniere dont les nouvelles etaient traitees etait parfaitement anti-Bush. Alors, encore une histoire de bipartisme a la liberal? La gauche doit pouvoir s'exprimer lorsque la droite est au pouvoir mais la droite doit se taire dans le cas inverse. |
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| Sujet: 654 - AH, Hillary... Elle n'a pas du tendre la main comme il fallait 11/3/2009, 11:16 | |
| N. Korea Accuses Obama's Government of InterferenceWednesday, March 11, 2009 AFPSEOUL, South Korea — North Korea accused President Barack Obama's government of meddling in its internal affairs Wednesday and vowed to take "every necessary measure" to defend itself against what it calls U.S. threats.The statement by North Korea's Foreign Ministry, however, was far less harsh than rhetoric issued by the country's military during the run-up to joint U.S.-South Korean war games that started across the South on Monday. The North's military has threatened South Korean passenger planes and put its troops on standby.Still, the Foreign Ministry's statement was significant in that it was the agency's first on the U.S. since Obama's inauguration, an analyst said."The Foreign Ministry is Washington's direct negotiating partner and has not engaged in criticizing the U.S. so far," said Kim Yong-hyun, a professor at Seoul's Dongguk University. "This means they have started expressing pent-up complaints."However, the ministry's less strident tone than other agencies reflects Pyongyang's willingness for negotiation, Kim said."The new administration of the U.S. is now working hard to infringe upon the sovereignty" of North Korea "by force of arms," the statement said. It accused Obama's government of "letting loose a whole string of words and deeds little short of getting on the nerves of the (North) and seriously interfering in its internal affairs."The statement did not elaborate on the alleged meddling, but Pyongyang has rejected demands from the U.S. and neighboring governments that it drop a missile launch plan, claiming it has the right to send off a satellite as part of its space program.The North may also have been referring to comments by U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton last month over a potential power struggle to replace North Korean leader Kim Jong Il, who is believed to have suffered a stroke last year.The North's statement also called the annual military drills in South Korea "war exercises designed to mount a pre-emptive attack" on the North. It said the country "will take every necessary measure to protect its sovereignty." It did not specify what the measures would beNorth Korea has long claimed that annual exercises are rehearsals for an invasion. Seoul and Washington say the drills are purely defensive.The 12-day maneuvers, involving 26,000 U.S. troops and an unspecified number of South Korean soldiers, include live-fire drills. The aircraft carrier USS John C. Stennis arrived Wednesday at a naval base in the southern port city of Busan for the exercises.Tensions on the divided peninsula have also been running high amid fears that Pyongyang might be trying to test-fire a long-range missile capable of reaching U.S. territory.The North claims what it is trying to launch is a satellite as part of its peaceful space program, and vowed to retaliate against any one seeking to shoot it down.In Washington, U.S. national intelligence director Dennis Blair said he believes the North is planning a space launch, but said the technology is no different from that of a long-range missile and its success would mean the communist nation is capable of striking the mainland U.S."I tend to believe that the North Koreans announced that they would do a space launch and that's what they intend," U.S. national intelligence director Dennis Blair said before a senate panel Tuesday."If a three stage space launch vehicle works, then that could reach not only Alaska and Hawaii but part of what the Hawaiians call the mainland and what the Alaskans call the lower forty-eight," he said.An official at Seoul's presidential Blue House said it is too early to determine whether North Korea is trying to launch a satellite or a missile. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity citing the issue's sensitivity, did not elaborate.U.S., South Korean and Japanese officials have warned Pyongyang not to launch either a satellite or missile — noting that both are the same in principle and differ only in payload.North Korea is banned from any ballistic missile activity under a U.N. Security Council resolution adopted after the country's first-ever nuclear test blast in 2006.Seoul's Foreign Minister Yu Myung-hwan renewed the warning that any launch would violate the U.N. resolution. "It's not that a satellite is OK and a missile is not," Yu told reporters. ------ Ils sont dangereux ces Nord-Coreens, ils envoient des feux d'artifice en l'air avec une trajectoire toute tordue. |
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| Sujet: 655 - La nouvelle Europe? 11/3/2009, 19:12 | |
| Il semblerait logique de verifier la legalite de la presence des manifestants anti-britanniques et de renvoyer chez eux, ceux qui ne sont que de simples touristes incapables de se tenir correctement dans le pays qu'ils visitent .Mais bon, c'est sans doute une mauvaise idee. Encore, il faut savoir balayer chez soi avant de verifier la proprete chez les autres. En effet, notre Procureur General, Eric Holder, nomme par NNP nous a bien traites de pays de laches. Muslim hate preacher ridicules troops abused in anti-war protests - and mocks their dead comrade By Michael Seamark, Andrew Levy and Matt SandyLast updated at 5:44 PM on 11th March 2009Muslim preacher of hate today ridiculed British soldiers who were abused during a homecoming parade - branding them cowards who have an 'uncanny knack for death by friendly fire'.Firebrand preacher Anjem Choudary praised the Muslims who had protested at yesterday's parade for the 2nd Battalion Royal Anglian Regiment in Luton.And in an inflammatory message posted on an Islamic extremist website, Choudary viciously mocked their comrade who was killed by friendly fire in Iraq.His words came as police charged a man who allegedly shouted abuse at the Muslim anti-war protesters. Venom: Faces contorted with fury, some of the Muslim demonstrators who marred the homecoming of the Royal Anglian Regiment yesterdayA second march which took place today in Watford passed off peacefully, with hundreds of residents turning out to cheer on the soldiers.Choudary, who has links with banned Muslim cleric Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed, likened the soldiers to Nazis and branded yesterday's homecoming a 'vile parade' of 'brutal murderers'.Choudary said: 'On 10th March 2009, 200 pathetic and cowardly British soldiers from the second battalion, of the Royal Anglian Regiment, pompously marched through Luton to demonstrate their skill at murdering and torturing thousands of innocent Muslim men, women and children [in Iraq] over a 24-month period.'Choudary leads the controversial Islam For The UK organisation which wants Britain to be an Islamic state, ruled by Sharia law.National pride: Soldiers from the 2nd Battalion, The Royal Anglian Regiment, marched through Watford today, supported by hundreds of cheering onlookersWell-wishers waved Union flags as they cheered the soldiers onHis group was formed after Bakri's fundamentalist organisation Al-Muhajiroun was banned by the Government.He said: 'Non-Muslims in Britain must appreciate that the actions of the British soldiers must be condemned unreservedly; they are not heroes but closer to cowards who cannot fight, as their uncanny knack for death by "friendly fire" illustrates.'His cruel comments were clearly designed to mock the memory of Private Darren George, 23, from Pirbright, Surrey, who was accidentally shot by a colleague in Kabul on April 9, 2002.Anjem Choudary (left) has praised the Muslim anti-war protesters while hate preacher Omar Bakri has said he feels pride at their demonstrationToday it was revealed that yesterday's shocking scenes were likely to have been organised by an extremist group directly linked to Bakri Mohammed.Within hours of the march ending the London School of Sharia had posted a message in support on its website. The group is led by Bakri, the 'Tottenham Ayotollah', who now preaches to his followers from Lebanon via videos posted on websites after he was barred from Britain.Bakri, 51, today said he felt 'proud' of the Luton protesters but denied any involvement in organising the demonstration.The preacher, speaking from the Lebanon, said: 'My brothers from Luton were protesting against people they see as killers of Muslims in Iraq - including women and children'But one Muslim community leader today condemned the extremists.Akbar Dad Khan, of Building Bridges in the town, said: 'They are about 10 to 15 hotheads. The best thing to do is just to ignore them. They do not represent the views of the community. They are a small hotch-potch of hot heads.'They love the attention and the media should not give them the time of day. The vast majority of the Muslim population in Luton - like elsewhere - want to live peacefully and get on with their lives.'Returning heroes: Members of the 2nd Battalion Royal Anglian Regiment parading through Luton yesterday after their tour of duty in Iraq'Many people from all backgrounds opposed the Iraq war but there are proper ways to conduct yourself,' he added. One protester at yesterday's rally, Sayful Islam, the leader of the Luton branch of an organisation that has the same beliefs as al-Muhajiroun, was unrepentant today. He said: 'The anger has been rising. The parade was the final insult. They have killed, maimed and raped thousands of innocent people. They can't come here and parade where there is such a Muslim community.'Last month members of the same group were seen at an anti-Israel demonstration in the Bedfordshire town. In his internet posting, Anjem Choudary said that the British soldiers were 'terrorists'.He said: 'They cannot be excused for simply 'carrying out their duty', which incidentally (and vividly) was also used by Nazi soldiers in Germany to justify their notorious and bloody campaigns in the early 20th century.'Sickening: The protesters had printed out placards, branding the soldiers of the 2nd Battalion The Royal Anglian Regiment 'cowards' and 'killers'Police closely monitor the anti-Army group as the 200-strong regiment passes through Luton town centreYesterday the 200 troops were faced with the hate-filled jeers of anti-war protesters waving placards saying: ‘Anglian soldiers: Butchers of Basra,’ and ‘Anglian soldiers: cowards, killers, extremists.’ Police were already out in force to protect the anti-war group and arrested two men among the soldiers’ supporters. ll pollsClick to view yesterday's poll resultsLast night the mother of David Hicks, a captain with the Royal Anglian Regiment who was killed in Afghanistan in August 2007, called the protests ‘extremely distressing’. ‘I felt very saddened and extremely upset,’ said Mrs Hicks, of Wokingham, Berkshire. ‘I also feel a little angry. I think every mother or father who has lost somebody in Afghanistan or Iraq would feel very difficult about this. ‘It’s very easy to tarnish all the Muslim community with the same brush, but I do wonder, if the roles were reversed, if such a protest would be allowed in a Muslim country.’ Gordon Brown condemned the protests and ministers and senior politicians branded the demonstration ‘insulting’ and ‘sordid.’ Shadow Secretary of State for Defence Dr Liam Fox said: ‘This is offensive, appalling and disgraceful. Elsewhere along the route hundreds of townsfolk turned out to clap and cheer on the soldiers Tempers flared as pro-Army supporters took offence at the small protest and police were forced to separate the groups'It is only because of the sacrifices made by our armed forces that these people live in a free society where they are able to make their sordid protests.’ Luton South Labour MP Margaret Moran called for an inquiry into the way police handled the incident. She said: ‘Calling people baby-killers and the rest seems to amount to provocation of the worst kind when these lads and lasses have risked their lives for the freedom these people enjoy. It seems to me this amounted to huge provocation and was potentially racially divisive.’ But the Muslim protesters were unrepentant. Teacher Sayful Islam, self-styled leader of the Luton branch of al-Muhajiroun – the now-banned radical organisation led by Sheikh Omar Bakri – said: ‘The anger has been rising. The parade was the final insult. ‘They have killed, maimed and raped thousands of innocent people. They can’t come here and parade where there is such a Muslim community. What do they have to be proud of?’ Posters were displayed accusing the Army of maiming babies and innocent civilians in Iraq Counter attack: A placard spells out backing for our troopsThe battalion is based in Germany, but Bedfordshire is one of the areas where it recruits, along with neighbouring Hertfordshire and Northamptonshire. Trouble flared as the soldiers marched to a meeting with the Duke of Gloucester, the regiment’s colonel-in-chief, and local dignitaries. He said:' The anger has been rising up. The parade was the final insult.'They have killed, maimed and raped thousands of innocent people. They can't come here and parade where there is such a Muslim community. What do they have to be proud of?'Leaflets urging Muslims to demonstrate against the soldiers' homecoming had been distributed around Luton earlier in the week.Under the headline 'Criminals' it railed against the troops' 'audacity' at marching though the town centre and accused them of having 'blood on their hands.'View from behind the veil: A group of Muslim women at the demonstrationSign of dissent: An anti-government messageIt read 'Muhammad said :"He among you who sees a munkar (evil) should change it with his hand. If he can not do that , then with his tongue(by speaking out against it)".'It finished with the words:' We urge the Muslims of Luton not to stay silent against these murderers of Muslim men, women and children and to do what we as Muslims have been obliged to do and speak against an open evil.'Police had penned the protesters into a small area and two lines of officers separated them from a large number of local people, waving Union and St George’s flags. At one point a man climbed onto a roof and threw a packet of bacon at the Muslim group. Bedfordshire police said the Muslim protesters were later ‘escorted from the area to a safe place to disperse’. The force said last night: ‘Everything that went on will be examined and if any offences have been committed then we will arrest them.’ An Army spokesman said the battalion, which is due to take part in a similar march in Watford today, was ‘deeply touched’ by the strong support shown by the people of Luton. He said: ‘There is no better boost to a soldier than to see hundreds of people turn out to watch them on parade.'The regiment's tragic roll callThe Royal Anglian Regiment has lost ten soldiers during the Afghan conflict and two during the Iraq conflict. Those killed in Afghanistan are: Private Aaron McClure, 19, from Ipswich, Suffolk; Private Robert Foster, 19, from Harlow, Essex; and Private John Thrumble, 21, from Chelmsford, Essex. All three were killed in a ‘ friendlyfire’ attack by a U.S. F15 fighter plane in Helmand on August 23, 2007.
- Captain David Hicks, 26, from Wokingham, Berkshire, was killed on August 11, 2007, when a patrol base in Helmand was attacked by small-arms fire and rocket-propelled grenades.
- Private Tony Rawson, 27, from Dagenham, Essex, was killed on August 10, 2007, when his ‘attack’ patrol came under fire from the Taliban in Helmand.
- Lance Corporal Alex Hawkins, 22, from East Dereham, Norfolk, was killed on July 25, 2007, by an explosion as his patrol returned to base in Helmand.
- Corporal Darren Bonner, 31, from Gorleston, Norfolk, was killed on May 28, 2007, by an explosion when his convoy was attacked in Helmand.
- Lance Corporal George Davey, 23, from Beccles, Suffolk, shot himself during ‘a tragic firearms accident’ in Helmand on May 20. 2007.
- Private Chris Gray, 19, from Leicester, was killed during a firefight with the Taliban in Helmand on April 13, 2007.
- Private Darren George, 23, from Pirbright, Surrey, was shot by a colleague who had a ‘dizzy spell’ while handling a machine gun in Kabul on April 9, 2002.
Those killed in Iraq are: Private Adam Morris, 19, from Leicestershire; and Private Joseva Lewaicei, 25, from Fiji. Both were killed by a roadside bomb on patrol in Basra on May 13, 2006. |
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| Sujet: 656 - James Carville avait precede Rush Limbaugh dans leur desir de voir un president echouer 11/3/2009, 21:41 | |
| Flashback: Carville Wanted Bush to FailThe press never reported that Democratic strategist James Carville said he wanted President Bush to fail before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. But a feeding frenzy ensued when radio host Rush Limbaugh recently said he wanted President Obama to fail. By Bill SammonFOXNews.comWednesday, March 11, 2009 On the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, just minutes before learning of the terrorist attacks on America, Democratic strategist James Carville was hoping for President Bush to fail, telling a group of Washington reporters: "I certainly hope he doesn't succeed."Carville was joined by Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg, who seemed encouraged by a survey he had just completed that revealed public misgivings about the newly minted president."We rush into these focus groups with these doubts that people have about him, and I'm wanting them to turn against him," Greenberg admitted.The pollster added with a chuckle of disbelief: "They don't want him to fail. I mean, they think it matters if the president of the United States fails."Minutes later, as news of the terrorist attacks reached the hotel conference room where the Democrats were having breakfast with the reporters, Carville announced: "Disregard everything we just said! This changes everything!"The press followed Carville's orders, never reporting his or Greenberg's desire for Bush to fail. The omission was understandable at first, as reporters were consumed with chronicling the new war on terror. But months and even years later, the mainstream media chose to never resurrect those controversial sentiments, voiced by the Democratic Party's top strategists, that Bush should fail.That omission stands in stark contrast to the feeding frenzy that ensued when radio host Rush Limbaugh recently said he wanted President Obama to fail. The press devoted wall-to-wall coverage to the remark, suggesting that Limbaugh and, by extension, conservative Republicans, were unpatriotic."The most influential Republican in the United States today, Mr. Rush Limbaugh, said he did not want President Obama to succeed," Carville railed on CNN recently. "He is the daddy of this Republican Congress."Limbaugh, a staunch conservative, emphasized that he is rooting for the failure of Obama's liberal policies."The difference between Carville and his ilk and me is that I care about what happens to my country," Limbaugh told Fox on Wednesday. "I am not saying what I say for political advantage. I oppose actions, such as Obama's socialist agenda, that hurt my country."I deal in principles, not polls," Limbaugh added. "Carville and people like him live and breathe political exploitation. This is all a game to them. It's not a game to me. I am concerned about the well-being and survival of our nation. When has Carville ever advocated anything that would benefit the country at the expense of his party?"Carville told Politico that focusing on Limbaugh is a deliberate strategy aimed at undermining Republicans."The television cameras just can't stay away from him," he said. "Our strategy depends on him keeping talking, and I think we're going to succeed."Greenberg added: "He's driving the Republican reluctance to deal with Obama, which Americans want."In 2006, 51 percent of Democrats wanted Bush to fail, according to a FOX News/Opinion Dynamics poll.======Quant au look assez.. demoniaque de James Carville, c'est surprenant qu'il n'interesse pas le caricaturiste de Shansaa, Jeff Danziger, plus que ca... Vous me direz, que c'est un Liberal, des lors.. Il est sans doute immunise.
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| Sujet: 657 - Une fois encore: faites ce que je dis et pas ce que je fais... 12/3/2009, 01:02 | |
| Il y a 2 jours, NNP annulait toutes les declarations de Bush 43 precisant les parties d'actes qui lui avaient ete envoyees et qu'il avait signe qu'ils refusaient. Les Democrates s'etaient plaints du fait fait que Bush 43 utilisait trop de ce droit. Obama vient deja de l'utiliser en declarant 5 dispositions du budget de $ 410 milliards comme anti-constitutionnelles
MARCH 11, 2009, 6:38 P.M. ET
Obama Makes Use of Signing Statements By JONATHAN WEISMAN
President Obama on Wednesday said earmarks must serve a "legitimate and worthy public purpose." WASHINGTON -- Democrats often criticized the Bush White House for its use of the presidential signing statement, a means by which the president can reject provisions of a bill he deems unconstitutional without vetoing the entire legislation. Now the approach is back. President Barack Obama, after signing into law a $410 billion budget bill on Wednesday, declared five provisions in the bill to be unconstitutional and non-binding, including one that would effectively restrict U.S. troop deployments under U.N. command and another aimed at preventing punishment of whistleblowers. ... |
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| Sujet: 658 - 12/3/2009, 07:54 | |
| Tiens, c'est donc ainsi que l'on represente le Republicain de nos jours? Vieux, raciste, xenophobe, guerrier, borne, la rien de nouveau mais le look "Amerique Profonde", on avait plus l'habitude du vieux banquier, alors ca oui, ca CHANGE. Une autre facon d'abaisser ceux qui partagent les idees de ce parti. Une autre facon d'insulter les etats rouges. Face a lui, une femme jeune tout de meme bien plus appetissante que ce vienx grincheux, portant un t-shirt moveon (organisation de Soros, dont les idees revolutionnaires doivent rapporter justice et egalite entre tous, prenant aux riches pour donner aux pauvres - organisation de Soros, qui a fait ses preuves...), eduquee (elle doit meme se rendre en cours), et puis, et puis pacifiste. L'elite, l'intellectuelle, le futur contre le demeure, le manuel, le passe qu'il faut balayer. Le Mal contre le Bien sommes toutes! Le but etant de ridiculiser et de rendre honteux tout individu d'etre Republicain, bien dans la ligne des attaques contre Rush Limbaugh. Mais attention tout de meme, il y a plus d'Americains de l'"Amerique Profonde" qu'il n'y a de banquiers, surtout de nos jours. Ca risque de ne pas plaire. |
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| Sujet: 659 - Ils ont soutenu et paye pour qu'ils soient elus, moveon et acorn insistent 12/3/2009, 08:16 | |
| pour qu'ils (president, senateurs, representants, etc..) leur renvoient l'ascenceur. Mais il n'y aurait pas de d'extreme-gauche aux Etats Unis! En fait, c'est partiellement vrai, il n'y en pas ou peu dans la population americaine; mais dans la vie politique non seulement elle existe, mais elle a une puissance folle. On la retrouve de facon majoritaire dans les media (propagande), dans les organisations (media matters, moveon) et dans l'enseignement (preparation liberale de nos enfants de la maternelle a la fin de leurs etudes avec une revision de l'histoire, une critique constante de la politique des Etats Unis et de la religion). Sommes toutes, le meme effet que le cancer, peu de cellules anormales au depart mais si on laisse faire et elles detruisent tout l'organisme tres rapidement. ACORN, MoveOn target House DemsThe groups are targeting House Dems who opposed a housing bill that has more generous bankruptcy rules.Photo: AP [/td][/tr][/table] Republicans hammered Barack Obama over his connection to ACORN during last year’s election, but now ACORN is taking a swing at some Democrats — with the help of liberal activists at MoveOn.org.
The role reversal arises out of the groups’ anger at moderate House Democrats who opposed a housing bill that has more generous bankruptcy rules for people facing foreclosure.
Next week this coalition will begin airing TV ads criticizing House Democrats who voted against the measure, which would for the first time give judges the authority to restructure home mortgages — a procedure known as a cramdown.
The House last week voted 234-191 to pass the housing bill with the bankruptcy provision, but 24 Democrats, mostly moderates, voted against it. ACORN, a coalition of housing activists, has made this measure a top priority in the new Congress.
It is the first time ACORN and MoveOn.org have joined forces to target a lawmaker from either party. The organizations say that they are actively seeking out residents in the districts of Reps. Brad Ellsworth (D-Ind.), Baron Hill (D-Ind.), Marion Berry (D-Ark.), and Tim Holden (D-Pa.) who have lost their homes, so they can appear in TV ads asking their congressmen why they voted against the bill.
“We think it is significant that progressives are joining forces to hold congressional moderates accountable for their votes affecting working families,” ACORN Executive Director Steve Kest told POLITICO. “We think that it signals how seriously we take these issues in the face of the economic meltdown.”
The liberal coalition doesn’t seem to mind taking on Democrats, though it’s unclear if the ad campaign would extend to backing more liberal Democrats in primaries against moderates like Ellsworth and Hill next year.
"We were appalled to see some congressional Democrats side with Wall Street while families in their districts are struggling to stay in their homes," said Robert Greenwald, president of Brave New Foundation, an organization spearheading the effort. "That is just unconscionable."
Color of Change, an African-American organization, is helping to finance the ad buy. The groups did not specify how much will be spent on the effort. |
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| Sujet: 660 - Vous repasserez! 12/3/2009, 08:31 | |
| Si ca interesse quelqu'un, de nouveaux articles ont ete postes a la page precedente. Selon un sondage par le Wall Street Journal base sur les reponses de 54 economistes, NNP et Geithner, Secretaire au Tresor (le meme qui s'est trompe dans ses declarations d'impots parce qu'il n'avait pas compris la loi), n'ont pas reussi dans leurs efforts de relancer l'economie americaine. ===== MARCH 11, 2009 Obama, Geithner Get Low Grades From EconomistsBy PHIL IZZOU.S. President Barack Obama and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner received failing grades for their efforts to revive the economy from participants in the latest Wall Street Journal forecasting survey.The economists' assessment stands in stark contrast with Mr. Obama's popularity with the public, with a recent Wall Street Journal/NBC poll giving him a 60% approval rating. A majority of the 49 economists polled said they were dissatisfied with the administration's economic policies.On average, they gave the president a grade of 59 out of 100, and although there was a broad range of marks, 42% of respondents rated Mr. Obama below 60. Mr. Geithner received an average grade of 51. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke scored better, with an average 71.The economists, many of whom have been continually surprised by the depth of the downturn, also pushed back yet again their forecasts for when a recovery would begin. On average, they expect the downturn to end in October. Last month, they said the bottom would arrive in August. They estimate that U.S. gross domestic product will continue to contract in the first half of this year, with slow growth returning in the third quarter.Economists were divided over whether the $787 billion economic-stimulus package passed last month is enough. Some 43% said the U.S. will need another stimulus package on the order of nearly $500 billion. Others were skeptical of the need for stimulus at all.However, economists' main criticism of the Obama team centered on delays in enacting key parts of plans to rescue banks. "They overpromised and underdelivered," said Stephen Stanley of RBS Greenwich Capital. "Secretary Geithner scheduled a big speech and came out with just a vague blueprint. The uncertainty is hanging over everyone's head."Mr. Geithner unveiled the Obama administration's plans Feb. 10, but he offered few details, and stocks sank on the news. The Dow Jones Industrial Average is down almost 20% since the announcement, as multiple issues have weighed on investors' confidence. The Treasury secretary has since appeared before Congress and offered more specifics but has said action on key parts of the plan still is weeks away."We have taken an unprecedented level of action toward economic recovery, accomplishing in weeks what took other countries years to do," Treasury spokesman Isaac Baker said. "While Wall Street and investors were disappointed when they didn't get a sweeping bank bailout, we've laid out a plan to stabilize the financial system while protecting the taxpayer and ensuring government funds are spent wisely. This crisis was years in the making, and it will take time to solve."Treasury has started implementing a housing-recovery plan, moved forward on a joint program with the Fed to boost consumer lending, and has begun stress-testing banks in an effort to determine which institutions will need additional capital from the government. The results of the stress tests won't be known for a few weeks. Meanwhile, a key part of the plan -- a public-private partnership to take toxic assets off bank balance sheets -- remains in the planning stages.The economists' negative ratings mark a turnaround in opinion. In December, before Mr. Obama took office, three-quarters of respondents said the incoming administration's economic team was better than the departing Bush team. However, Mr. Geithner's latest marks are lower than the average grade of 57* that former Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson received in January.* rappel: les notes sont sur 100 et non sur 20 comme en France. --------Mr. Geithner, who is relying on a skeleton crew of advisers in the Treasury Department as the administration struggles to make key appointments to his staff, is encountering the same problems as his predecessor in dealing with the complexities of a bailout plan. Richard DeKaser of Woodley Park Research, who gave high marks to Messrs. Obama and Geithner, admitted disappointment in the delay in action but said he appreciated the magnitude of the task. "I don't know what's holding it up," he said. "But I'm assuming it's not just because they're hitting the golf course."There was widespread initial support for the appointment of Mr. Geithner, who as president of the New York Federal Reserve had been on the front lines of the crisis since it erupted. However, in the ensuing weeks Mr. Geithner has had to deal with tax troubles and criticism from those opposed to any bailouts as well as those who think the government needs to be doing more.Meanwhile, the economists surveyed this month predict that the economy will shed another 2.8 million jobs over the next 12 months as the unemployment rate climbs to 9.3% by December, up from the 8.1% rate recorded in February. Economists also see nearly a one-in-six chance that the U.S. will fall into a depression, defined as a decline in per-person GDP or consumption by 10% or more."We just keep moving the date [when the recession will end] out, hoping at some point in time we will be able to move the date back in," said Diane Swonk of Mesirow Financial.The economists didn't just single out the U.S. for criticism; 70% of participants said the response of governments around the world to the global recession has been inadequate. "The Europeans or Japanese don't seem to be doing near enough to kickstart their economies," said Nariman Behravesh of IHS Global Insight. "It could be we've done all the right things, but the rest of the world goes down the tubes."Despite the growing criticism elsewhere, the respondents were broadly supportive of the Fed. More than 85% of the economists agreed that the central bank's proliferating lending programs are well-designed, well-executed and helping the economy. And while grades for Mr. Bernanke remain off of their 2007 highs, the average has stabilized after falling as low as 69 in the November survey.Amid all the gloom, there is a bright spot: Four-fifths of the economists said now is a good time to buy equities, especially if the investor has a long-term view. |
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| Sujet: 661 - L'analyse de Ca, oh pardon, Karl Rove a/s de la campagne anti-Rush Limbaugh 12/3/2009, 08:39 | |
| La Maison Blanche a fait une erreur avec sa campagne anti-Limbaugh/anti-Republicaine pendant une crise economique des plus serieuses. MARCH 12, 2009
The White House Misfires on Limbaugh By KARL ROVE
Presidents throughout history have kept lists of political foes. But the Obama White House is the first I am aware of to pick targets based on polls. Even Richard Nixon didn't focus-group his enemies list.
Team Obama -- aided by Clintonistas Paul Begala, James Carville and Stanley Greenberg -- decided to attack Rush Limbaugh after poring over opinion research. White House senior adviser David Axelrod explicitly authorized the assault. Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel assigned a White House official to coordinate the push. And Press Secretary Robert Gibbs gleefully punched the launch button at his podium, suckering the White House press corps into dropping what they were doing to get Mr. Limbaugh.
Was it smart politics and good policy? No. For one thing, it gave the lie to Barack Obama's talk about ending "the political strategy that's been all about division" and "the score-keeping and the name-calling." The West Wing looked populated by petulant teenagers intent on taking down a popular rival. Such talk also shortens the president's honeymoon by making him look like a street-fighting Chicago pol instead of an inspirational, unifying figure. The upward spike in ratings for Rush and other conservative radio commentators shows how the White House's attempt at a smackdown instead energized the opposition.
Did it do any good with voters not strongly tied to either party? I suspect not. With stock markets down, unemployment growing, banks tottering, consumers anxious, business leaders nervous, and the economy shrinking, the Obama administration's attacks on a radio talk show host made it seem concerned with the trivial.
Why did the White House do it? It was a diversionary tactic. Clues might be found in the revelation that senior White House staff meet for two hours each Wednesday evening to digest their latest polling and focus-group research. I would bet a steak dinner at Morton's in Chicago these Wednesday Night Meetings discussed growing public opposition to spending, omnibus pork, more bailout money for banks and car companies, and new taxes on energy, work and capital.
What better way to divert public attention from these more consequential if problematic issues than to start a fight with a celebrity conservative? Cable TV, newspapers and newsweeklies would find the conflict irresistible. Something has to be set aside to provide more space and time to the War on Rush; why not the bad economic news?
Here's the problem: Misdirection never lasts long. Team Obama can at best only temporarily distract the public; within days, attention will return to issues that clearly should worry the White House.
Not even Team Obama can forestall unpleasant reality. And among those America now faces is Mr. Obama adding $3.2 trillion to the national debt in his first 20 months and 11 days in office, eclipsing the $2.9 trillion added during the Bush presidency's entire eight years.
Another reality is that Mr. Obama's fiscal house is built on gimmicks. For example, it assumes the cost of the surge in Iraq will extend for a decade. This brazenly dishonest trick was done to create phony savings down the line.
Mr. Obama's budget downplays some programs' true cost. For example, his vaunted new college access program is funded for five years and then disappears (on paper); the children's health insurance program drops (on paper) from $12.4 billion in 2013 to $700 million the next year. Neither will happen; the costs of both will be much higher and so will the deficits.
Mr. Obama's budget also assumes the economy declines 41% less this year and grows 52% more next year and 38% more the year after than is estimated by the Blue Chip consensus (a collection of estimates by leading economists traditionally used by federal budget crunchers). If Mr. Obama used the consensus forecasts for growth rather than his own rosy scenarios, his budget would be $758 billion more in the red over the next five years.
Then there's discretionary domestic spending, which grows over the next two years by $238 billion, the fastest increase ever recorded. Mr. Obama pledges it will then be cut in real terms for the next nine years. That's simply not credible.
Then there's his omnibus spending bill to fund the government for the next six months, laden with 8,500 earmarks and tens of billions in additional spending above the current budget. What happened to pledges for earmark reform and making "meaningful cuts?"
In the face of our enormous economic challenges, top White House aides decided to pee on Mr. Limbaugh's leg. This is a political luxury the country cannot afford, and which Mr. Obama would be wise to forbid. Or did he not mean it when he ran promising to "turn the page" on the "old" politics?
Mr. Rove is the former senior adviser and deputy chief of staff to President George W. Bush. |
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| Sujet: 662 - Il etait question d'interdire les semi-automatiques... 12/3/2009, 09:47 | |
| ... le nouveau Roi du combat contre la drogue (en anglais il est 'tsar" mais bon) a peine en place, voudrait interdire la chasse. Aie aie aie, meme si le nombre des chasseurs est en declin, il va peut-etre falloir la encore que le gouvernement Obama fasse attention, c'est un groupe qui va difficilement se laisser faire. Une fois de plus l'attaque, en dehors du fait qu'elle soit ab-so-lu-ment ridicule, (si l'on reprend eventuellement les armes a l'Americain "moyen" ca n'empechera pas le cartel de la drogue d'etre arme), va parfaitement dans la ligne socialiste du desarmement de la population. --------
Le point de vue du candidat de NNP. "We ought to ban hunting" - Cass Sunstein, in a 2007 speech at Harvard University Watch Video
"[A]lmost all gun control legislation is constitutionally fine. And if the Court is right, then fundamentalism does not justify the view that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to bear arms. " - Cass Sunstein, writing in his book, "Radicals in Robes" Read full text
"Animals should be permitted to bring suit, with human beings as their representatives …" - 2004 book Animal Rights: Current Debates and New Directions Read full text
"[Humans’] willingness to subject animals to unjustified suffering will be seen … as a form of unconscionable barbarity… morally akin to slavery and the mass extermination of human beings." - Cass Sunstein, in a 2007 speech at Harvard University Watch video
"[T]here should be extensive regulation of the use of animals in entertainment, in scientific experiments, and in agriculture." - Cass Sunstein, “The Rights of Animals: A Very Short Primer,” August 2002.Read full text "A system of limitless individual choices, with respect to communications, is not necessarily in the interest of citizenship and self-government." -Cass Sunstein, arguing for a Fairness Doctrine for the Internet in his book, Republic.com 2.0 (page 137)
Pas tres surprenant que des petitions se mettent en place -------- Ca fait des annees que la gauche* essaye, donc... a suivre. * pardon, la gauche n'existe pas aux Etats Unis, j'avais oublie.
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| Sujet: 663 - Ayers, l'ai-je bien ecrit? (et son epouse d'ailleurs) 12/3/2009, 10:08 | |
| l'ami de NNP sans l'etre tout en l'etant, est mis en accusion d'avoir participe au plasticage d'une station de police en 1970, qui a cause la mort d'un policier et blesse 8 autres. William est le co-fondateur de Weather-Underground, organisation terroriste. Ayers a echappe a la justice (grace a une legalite) bien qu'il ait officiellement reconnu avoir participe a des attentats. La personne qui l'accuse est un officier qui avait infiltre l'organisation a l'epoque et dit l'avoir entendu confesser le crime. William dit que c'est faux et que Grathwohl est paye pour son action. A suivre la aussi. Enfin, bon, ce minable individu aurait pu avoir la bonne idee d'eviter de se remettre sur le devant de la scene. Rappel: sa presence au cote de Ward Churchill a l'Universite de Colorado(Boulder) la semaine derniere. Il y a prescription pour tous les crimes sauf pour les meurtres. ------- Report: Police Union Accuses Ayers in Deadly 1970 San Francisco BombingWednesday, March 11, 2009 A San Francisco police union has accused former domestic terrorist William Ayers, co-founder of the Weather Underground, and his wife in a 1970 bombing that killed one sergeant, the San Francisco Chronicle reports.The union, in a letter to a conservative organization lobbying for arrests in the case, accused Ayers and wife Bernardine Dohrn of bombing a city police station.On Feb. 16, 1970, a bomb placed on a window ledge of Park Station killed Sgt. Brian McDonnell and injured eight other officers, the Chronicle reported.The union said it had not been in contact with investigators nor did it have new evidence, but it cited Larry Grathwohl, who works with the conservative organization America's Survival of Maryland and claims that he infiltrated Weather Underground as an FBI informant and heard Ayers confess, the Chronicle reported."There are irrefutable and compelling reasons to believe that Bill Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn ... are largely responsible for the bombing of Park Police Station," the Feb. 24 letter reads, according to the Chronicle.Ayers denies any involvement in the bombing and told the Chronicle in January that his accuser, Grathwohl, was a "paid dishonest person."Ayers was once again thrust into the spotlight during last year's presidential campaign, when President Obama's ties to the radical were questioned.Ayers is now an education professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Dohrn is a law professor at Northwestern University. |
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| Sujet: 664 - NNP souhaiterait ENCORE un plan de relance, notre WWW 12/3/2009, 12:27 | |
| ... ne serait pas contre mais beaucoup d'elus semble penser qu'assez c'est assez et pas seulement chez les Republicains, pas du tout.
Nancy Pelosi said this week that she’s keeping the door open for a second stimulus bill. She may be the only one.
By LISA LERER & MANU RAJU| 3/12/09 4:06 AM EDT
As the nation continues to shed jobs, an increasing number of economists are saying Congress will need to pump more money into the economy this year. But reaction on Capitol Hill has been almost uniformly negative — and much of the blowback is coming from Democrats.
“If there’s appetite, there’s not in my office,” said Sen. Tom Carper (D-Del.). “Enough for now. No mas. No mas.”
“It is too soon,” said House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.). “No sensible person is trying to guess what will be appropriate policy six months from now.”
“It sounds to me that would be a monumental lift,” said Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.). “Somebody’s going to have to convince me how they’re going to pay for it.”
Just three weeks after President Barack Obama signed a $787 billion stimulus package — and on the same day that he signed a $410 billion omnibus bill loaded with earmarks — the idea of spending more money to juice the economy was one that few members were willing to embrace.
Even Pelosi’s staff tried to walk back comments the speaker made Tuesday.
At a press briefing Tuesday, Pelosi stood beside Moody’s economist Mark Zandi as he said that “another stimulus package is a reasonable probability,” that Congress was “likely” going to need to approve “more money for financial stability to shore up the banking system,” and that “more money for foreclosure mitigation may also be necessary at the end of the day.”
Asked if she agreed, Pelosi preached patience with the first stimulus package but added that, “as has been said by the economists to us in that room and Mark here, we have to keep the door open to see how this goes.”
Staffers said Wednesday that Pelosi wasn’t saying that another package was definitely in the works — but they also said that it would be “irresponsible” to rule out the idea that another stimulus might be needed.
Aides to House Appropriations Committee Chairman Dave Obey (D-Wis.) also denied a CNN report that he has asked his staff to start drafting a second stimulus bill.
But the political damage was already done. Republicans seized on press reports about Pelosi and Obey, arguing that talk of a second stimulus was an implicit admission that the first stimulus won’t work.
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| Sujet: 665 - Apres avoir mis le moral a zero de presque tous les Americains pendant ses 13/3/2009, 07:26 | |
| 50 premiers jours a la Maison Blanche, NNP nous annonce tout de go que les choses ne sont pas si terribles. Nous avons sans doute tourne un page...
Obama Declares: Economic Crisis "Not as Bad as We Think"
President mounted a stout defense of his blueprint to overhaul the economy Thursday, declaring the national crisis is "not as bad as we think" and his plans will speed recovery. AP
Thursday, March 12, 2009
WASHINGTON -- Confronting misgivings, even in his own party, President Obama mounted a stout defense of his blueprint to overhaul the economy Thursday, declaring the national crisis is "not as bad as we think" and his plans will speed recovery.
Challenged to provide encouragement as the nation's "confidence builder in chief," Obama said Americans shouldn't be whipsawed by bursts of either bad or good news and he was "highly optimistic" about the long term.
The president's proposals for major health care, energy and education changes in the midst of economic hard times faced skepticism from both Democrats and Republicans on Capitol Hill, as senators questioned his budget outlook and the deficits it envisions in the middle of the next decade.
But Obama, speaking to top executives of the Business Roundtable, expressed an optimistic vision and called for patience.
Richard Parsons, chairman of beleaguered Citigroup Inc., asked if Obama could offer some help in a national battle "between confidence and fear."
"A smidgen of good news and suddenly everything is doing great. A little bit of bad news and ooohh , we're down on the dumps," Obama said. "And I am obviously an object of this constantly varying assessment. I am the object in chief of this varying assessment."
"I don't think things are ever as good as they say, or ever as bad as they say," Obama added. "Things two years ago were not as good as we thought because there were a lot of underlying weaknesses in the economy. They're not as bad as we think they are now."
"And my long-term projections are highly optimistic, if we take care of some of these long-term structural problems." But in Congress, Obama's budget plans were meeting resistance.
Sen. Kent Conrad, the chairman of the Budget Committee called the track of future deficits "unsustainable" and singled out Obama's proposal for adding $634 billion in health care spending over the next 10 years. "Some of us have a real pause about the notion of putting substantially more money into the health care system when we've already got a bloated system," said Conrad, D-N.D.
Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, testifying before Conrad's committee, also encountered blunt questions about the administration's plans for shoring up the nation's banks. He reiterated the administration's goal to lay out a private-public partnership to make up to $1 trillion in financing available to help banks clear their books of toxic, mortgage-related assets that have led to a national credit freeze.
Geithner hinted more money might be required beyond the existing $700 billion financial rescue fund. "We certainly can start with the resources we have," he said.
Meanwhile, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., played down talk that Democrats would consider a second economic stimulus bill.
"I know that people have made suggestions that we should be ready to do something, but I really would like to see this stimulus package play out," Pelosi said. "It's just not something that, right now, is in the cards," she added later.
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| Sujet: 666 - Rick Perry, le Gouverneur du Texas refuse les 555 millions de subventions federales 13/3/2009, 07:56 | |
| La raison etant qu'en acceptant cet argent, Perry acceptait egalement les nouvelles regles imposees par les Democrates concernant le paiement des indemnites de chomage dans l'Etat et ce, pas seulement concernant ce montant donne mais meme apres que l'argent de "relance" ait ete epuise, une facon comme une autre de laisser passer la encore par la petite porte, une vision que certains considere comme socialiste de soutien gouvernemental. Ces indemnities ne peuvent etre payees qu'en augmentant la levee des impots, ce qui obstrue la bonne marche de l'economie de l'Etat donc la creation de postes. Les Republicains preferant de beaucoup que les gens gagnent leur vie dans une economie florissante plutot qu'ils ne recoivent des subventions de chomage dans une economie en declin. Or plus d'impots sur les societes causent moins d'engagement de personnel. Je n'aime pas Monsieur Perry, plus que ca, mais je dois avouer qu'il vient de prendre une decision tres courageuse. On ne voit pas ca si souvent chez les politiques. Texas Gov. Rejects Stimulus Money for Unemployment Perry, an outspoken critic of President Barack Obama's $787 billion stimulus bill, did accept most of the roughly $17 billion slated for Texas in the plan.
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Thursday, March 12, 2009 HOUSTON - Texas Gov. Rick Perry on Thursday rejected $555 million in federal stimulus money that would expand state unemployment benefits, saying the money would have required the state to keep funding the expanded benefits after the stimulus money ran out. Perry, an outspoken critic of President Barack Obama's $787 billion stimulus bill, did accept most of the roughly $17 billion slated for Texas in the plan. But he said the requirements attached to the federal stimulus money would require a change in the state's definition of unemployment, expanding coverage to more people and placing more of the state's tax burden on employers. "During these tough times, Texas employers are working harder than ever to move products to market, make payroll and create jobs," Perry said at a news conference. "The last thing they need is government burdening them with higher taxes and expanded obligations." Perry said such an expansion would counteract the package's objective of job creation by leading companies to limit hiring and raise prices. To receive the full amount of stimulus money available, lawmakers would need to adjust the time period used to determine whether people are eligible for benefits. Texas also is being asked to expand eligibility to include thousands of low-wage workers. Lawmakers have said the change would help part-time employees like single mothers, college students and senior citizens. Perry's decision comes despite warnings from Texas Workforce Commission Chairman Tom Pauken that the state's unemployment compensation trust fund could be operating at a deficit by October. Pauken told lawmakers recently that insolvency might not be not far behind. |
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| Sujet: 667 - certains prisonniers parmi les 100 Yemeni de Guantanamo seraient heberges par l'Arabie Saoudite 13/3/2009, 08:04 | |
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| Sujet: 668 - Ahaaaa... NNP pret a considerer baisser les taux d'imposition sur les societes! 13/3/2009, 08:28 | |
| Tout espoir n'est pas perdu. NNP commencerait-il a comprendre, or...? Obama Makes Overtures for Cooperation of CEOs
By JONATHAN WEISMAN
WASHINGTON -- In his most aggressive outreach yet to the business community, President Barack Obama told some of the nation's leading CEOs that he is ready to talk about lowering corporate income-tax rates and could compromise on his plan to combat global warming.Speaking for more than an hour Thursday to the Business Roundtable, a chief executives organization, Mr. Obama made it clear he wants the business community's cooperation to secure his agenda of expanding the federal role in education, overhauling health care and transforming the energy sector.Pressed on his proposal to rein in the indefinite deferral of corporate taxes on overseas earnings, Mr. Obama said he would be willing to consider lowering the 35% corporate tax rate as he closes other business-tax loopholes. "That's a very appealing conversation to me, and I'd like to pursue it," the president said. When Weyerhaeuser Co. CEO Daniel S. Fulton questioned his climate-change proposal, Mr. Obama struck a pragmatic note. Mr. Fulton said the proposal to cap carbon emissions and force companies to purchase permits for 100% of future releases would stifle innovation on conservation for energy-intensive companies like his, already struggling with costs. ... |
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| Sujet: 670 - Bonjour Biloulou 13/3/2009, 08:37 | |
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| Sujet: 671- Mille pardons et cent mille bonjours ! 13/3/2009, 08:44 | |
| Bonjour Sylvette ! Vous voyez, je vous suis (très dévoué aussi), mais il y a tant de personnages nouveaux pour moi dans l'actualité US, des gens dont je n'ai jamais entendu parler, que tout commentaire de ma part serait vain et présomptueux. Alors je lis... j'apprends... pas toujours avec application, je l'avoue, car vous savez, les médias et moi... | |
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| Sujet: 673- Voui.... 13/3/2009, 10:16 | |
| - Lawrence en 672 a écrit:
Cher Biloulou, Les noms changent mais les intérêts et le controle des commandes restent dans les mêmes mains... C'est une opinion fort répandue, rarement appuyée par des arguments et très respectable... comme toute autre opinion moins populiste mais plus rationnelle... | |
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| Sujet: 674 - Le 672 de Lawrence. Ben tiens donc.... 13/3/2009, 10:36 | |
| Je vous repose la meme question a laquelle vous n'avez toujours pas repondue sauf par des mini phrases sans grand sens: Si, selon ce que vous dites MAINTENANT vous pensiez reellement pendant la campagne electorale qu'il n'y avait pas de difference de politique exterieure entre un parti et un autre, POURQUOI avoir a ce point soutenu Obama, vous qui n'aurez pas a souffrir de ses decisions sur le gouvernement interieur des Etats Unis et qui n'etant pas Americain ne pouvez pas voter aux US? Alors, avez-vous ete emporte par le torrent mediatique sans reellement reflechir au probleme qu'il creeait ou ideologiquement parlant, vous souteniez reellement l'avenement du socialisme aux Etats Unis, a moins encore que vous n'ayez trouve drole que les Americains s'en prennent plein la tete? mais vous vous dites: apolitique alors, peut-etre encore une autre raison? Franchement, Lawrence j'aimerais vraiment savoir. Vos actions comme celles de tant d'autres ont eu une part importante dans l'election puisque les responsables du parti Democrate et les media n'ont eu de cesse d'expliquer aux Americains (qui dans l'ensemble n'aiment pas etre detestes, qui aime ca?) que si Obama passait, la vision des Etats Unis par le monde changerait et que McCain etait un deuxieme Bush. C'est tres grave en ce qui me concerne. --------- NNP est en train de nous (les Americains) mettre dans une deche incroyable faisant tout en pleine crise economique pour transformer notre nation en un pays socialiste avant la fin de ses 100 premiers jours. Il va falloir que quelqu'un m'explique POURQUOI mettre une telle pression pour solutionner tous les problemes a la fois, alors qu'un seul soit pressant pour le moment: l'economie En ce qui concerne l'education (enseignement public mais n'oublions pas que ses enfants sont en prive) qu'il devait requinquer il a decide de conserver au moins pour le moment le programe de Bush 43, tant decrie par lui et ses supporters, "no child left behind". Il remet meme en place l'idee du bonus au merite, la aussi tant hue par les Democrates. MAIS, MAIS si les districts scolaires sont pour le moment sous la direction de "School Boards" dont les membres sont elus (parent d'eleves - souvent enseignants) il a decide la encore de mettre le gouvernement a la tete. Le gouvernement local: la Mairie des villes! En ce qui concerne les banques, il va la aussi infuser des responsables gouvernementaux. Et ne commencons meme pas a parler des impots, des lobbyists, du bi-partisme, du "porc", la reduction de la defense, etc.. etc.. etc.. |
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| Sujet: 675 - Tiens en fait, il se pourrait que les supporters d'Obama soient tout de meme 13/3/2009, 11:12 | |
| un peu eclabousses: Geithner (Notre Secretaire au Tresor qui n'avait pas paye tous ses impots n'ayant pas bien compris la loi...) demande a ce que les pays europeens depensent plussssss Europeans Could Balk at Geithner's Call for More SpendingAs the U.S. calls for more spending to jumpstart the global economy, more Eastern European countries are coming to the table hat in hand, looking for financial help from the International Monetary Fund and other groups FOXNews.comThursday, March 12, 2009The U.S. mantra of spend, spend, spend is starting to wear thin on the other side of the pond. European countries appear to be at odds with Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner's fresh calls to unleash more stimulus money and free up a half-trillion dollars to lend to struggling countries. It could lead to a tense discussion as Geithner heads to Britain to meet with finance officials from the Group of 20 nations Friday and Saturday. Those meetings come ahead of an April 2 summit of the G-20 in London. As the U.S. calls for more spending, more Eastern European countries also are coming to the table hat in hand, looking for financial help from the International Monetary Fund and other groups -- but does the rest of the world have the money to give? "We're just getting into the worst of the crisis in a global sense," said Ralph Bryant, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution who specializes in international economic issues. "Many developing countries ... are just beginning to feel the really bad effects." But European Union leaders recently rejected a request from Hungary for $241 billion in bailout money for the region. "I think they're on a different page," Bryant said of U.S. and European financial officials. He said the calls by the U.S. for more stimulus money and international aid likely will stir controversy at the upcoming meetings. Geithner on Wednesday called for a tenfold increase in the size of an emergency fund the IMF uses to help countries in trouble -- to as much as $500 billion. He also endorsed the IMF's call for countries to enact stimulus packages worth, on average, 2 percent of their GDP. But in a report last week, the IMF said the U.S. was the only one of the world's seven rich industrial nations -- the Group of Seven -- on track to meet that goal. "I think that the United States has actually taken a significant lead on a number of these steps that are required," President Obama said Wednesday, calling for "concerted action around the global to jumpstart the economy" at the G-20 meeting. .... Some European nations are reticent to take on the kind of national debt the United States has been accumulating in recent months. European critics have charged that the United States' demand for increased stimulus spending was an effort to divert a European call for a major overhaul of regulations governing the financial system to curb the types of excesses in the U.S. that spawned the crisis. At a meeting this week of finance ministers of the 27-nation European Union, officials said they were doing enough already to support the world economy. Sans blague? ... ------------ il a ete reproche a Bush 43 de ne pas suffisamment s'allier avec les pays Europeens entre autres, de faire cavalier seul (pour la guerre en Iraq, il etait loin de l'etre, mais bon... les media et les anti-Bush etant les media et les anti-Bush...) Ben, NNP veut faire participer les pays Europeens a la crise... il demande tres gentiment, il a la main tendue.... et ca ne plait toujours pas aux dirigeants Europeens - je me demande ce que vont en dire les Democrates. |
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