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Bonjour Biloulou

Il me semblait que cette nouvelle plairait!

AUGUST 8, 2009, 12:40 A.M. ET

Geithner Asks Congress to Increase Federal Debt Limit

By COREY BOLES and MICHAEL R. CRITTENDEN

Washington -- U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner asked Congress to increase the $12.1 trillion debt limit on Friday, saying it is "critically important" that they act in the next two months.
Mr. Geithner, in a letter to U.S. lawmakers, said that the Treasury projects that the current debt limit could be reached as early mid-October. Increasing the limit is important to instilling confidence in global investors, Mr. Geithner said.

The Treasury didn't request a specific increase in the letter.

"It is critically important that Congress act before the limit is reached so that citizens and investors here and around the world can remain confident that the United States will always meet its obligations," Mr. Geithner said in a letter to lawmakers.

Mr. Geithner said the that it is "clearly a moment in our history" that requires support from both Democrats and Republicans for the increase.

"Congress has never failed to raise the debt limit when necessary," Mr. Geithner said.
The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office said Thursday the federal government's budget deficit reached $1.3 trillion through the first ten months of fiscal 2009, on track to reach a record high of $1.8 trillion for the 12-month period.

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Apres Sarah Palin, les Democrates veulent faire sauter Michele Bachmann. Sarah etait une idiote, Michele est une folle. Ben voyons donc.

Enfin, je souhaite bonne chance a Michele! Pour que les Democrates aient peur a ce point, elle doit etre tres interessante!
(Elle ne ressemble pas un peu a la dame du Poitou, Marieden ?)

For Dems, a new public enemy No. 1

Ask Minnesota Democratic officials about Michele Bachmann, and they can barely contain their anger. (Photo by AP)

By ALEX ISENSTADT | 8/8/09 8:29 AM EDT

Ask Minnesota Democratic officials about Michele Bachmann, and they can barely contain their anger. Photo: AP

Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann is outspoken, conservative, media-friendly — and for many in the [i]Democratic Party, a new public enemy No. 1.

Now that former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is out of office, there are few Republican officials in the country Democrats would rather unseat in 2010 than Bachmann, a two-term congresswoman with a habit of pushing the buttons of liberals on everything from ACORN to global warming to even whether President Barack Obama is, as she once asked, "anti-American."

"She's definitely somewhere up there," Bachmann chief of staff Michelle Martson said of where the Minnesota congresswoman sits on the Democratic campaign hit-list.

Bachmann has long been on the receiving end of pointed

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“I think they’re passionate about trying to beat Michele Bachmann,” said Michael Brodkorb, deputy chairman of the Minnesota Republican Party of Democratic efforts. “I think she probably frustrates them because she’s able to win every time.”
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Cette fois-ci, ca sera peut-etre plus difficile, courage!

Michelle Bachmann....

Hum, elle ressemble plutôt à Stone en moins intelligente !!!

Pauvre Lawrence ..

Outbursts, Hot Tempers Fill Town Hall Meetings Across U.S.
AP

Saturday, August 08, 2009

DES MOINES, Iowa -- Loud outbursts, hot tempers and pleas for civility at town hall meetings around the country Saturday foreshadowed a long, hot August as Democratic lawmakers returning home faced resistance to proposals to reform the nation's costly health care system.

At a meeting in Des Moines, Sen. Tom Harkin of Iowa, was interrupted several times by people in the audience shouting criticism and questions, even though he said he didn't expect Iowans to take part in what he called "scare tactics, misinformation and obstruction."

"As we have seen in recent days, opponents are pulling out all stops to kill the reform effort. This is a shame," Harkin said.

But his words didn't stop some in the estimated crowd of 200 from disrupting the meeting, where uniformed police officers were present. Des Moines police said no one was arrested.

At one point, a man from the audience yelled: "This is not health reform, this is control, control over our lives."

Harkin responded to one man shouting criticisms by saying, "As I said, there is a nationally coordinated effort to disrupt these meetings."

The man responded that no one had sent him to the meeting.

Similar exchanges have recently taken place at town halls nationwide, as Democratic lawmakers return home for the August recess to rally support for President Obama's top domestic priority -- revamping a costly health care system that leaves millions without insurance.

The episodes have drawn widespread media attention, and Republicans have seized on them as well as polls showing a decline in support for President Barack Obama and his agenda as evidence that public support is lacking for his signature legislation.

Pushing back, Democrats have accused Republicans of sanctioning mob tactics and trying to sabotage the democratic process.

The Republican Party has said it's not behind the protests, but some conservative groups have encouraged people to show up at the meetings and let the lawmakers know about their opposition.

The tension over pending health care reform legislation boiled over at other meetings Saturday.

Hundreds of people crowded into a meeting in Memphis hosted by Rep. Steve Cohen. The forum was scheduled to address constituents' concerns about Social Security and veterans' benefits, but it quickly turned into a shouting match over health care reform.

Democratic Rep. Ed Perlmutter was at a grocery store in Colorado, on Saturday for informal chats with constituents. Some people protested the proposed health care overhaul and likened it to socialism.

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Peu de personnes participent generalement a ces reunions presidees par les elus de retour dans leur district, surtout au mois d’Aout; cette annee ils sont des centaines a y assister, pas des voyoux, la majorite des gens d'age moyen et des retraites. En dehors des bruyants, l’interet porte a la proposition de loi concernant la reforme de la sante par tant d’Americains, montre a quel point ils se sentent concernes et inquiets.

Il est donc regrettable que tant de Democrates y compris NP et notre W.W.W. se sentent obliges de faire croire que la vive reaction des personnes presentes soit le fait de l’extreme droite

Quant aux reproches fait aux elus Republicains de ne pas condamner les fauteurs de trouble, meme si ce n’est pas une raison, qui parmi les elus Democrates avait releve et/ou condamne l’extremisme des dames en rose anti-guerre qui interrompaient regulierement les reunions officielles (meme pas une reunion municipale supposee permettre aux administres de faire connaitre leur desaccord.)

Une fois de plus, NP pensait avoir recu carte blanche pour CHANGEr le pays comme il le souhaitait et ne comprend pas pourquoi les Americains voient maintenant une objection a ses plans. Peut-etre que s’il avait été plus precis pendant la campagne... bien sur, s’il l’avait été, peut-etre n’aurait-il pas été elu…

Vision bien particuliere de NP. Si vous n'etes pas d'accord taisez-vous et ecartez-vous de mon chemin.

Un des pilones de sa campagne etait l'ouverture vers l'autre parti

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Obama Tells Economic Critics to 'Get Out of the Way'

At a rally in Virginia for state Sen. Creigh Deeds, the Democratic candidate for governor, President Obama says he doesn't want to take tips from those who created the economic "mess" the country is in.

FOXNews.com
Friday, August 07, 2009

A fired up President Obama said Thursday that he wants his critics to just "get out of the way" so his administration can clean up the economic "mess" that Republicans left for him.

Obama spoke Thursday night at a rally in Virginia for state Sen. Creigh Deeds, the Democratic candidate for governor.

He used the bulk of his pep talk to dress down critics who say his economic stimulus is not working and who complain about his administration's spending. Obama noted that he was handed a deficit topping $1 trillion when he walked into office, and urged the "naysayers" to step aside.

"We've got some work to do. I don't mind, by the way, being responsible. I expect to be held responsible for these issues because I'm the president,* Obama said. "But I don't want the folks that created the mess -- I don't want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking. I want them just to get out of the way so we can clean up the mess.

"I don't mind cleaning up after them, but don't do a lot of talking," Obama said.

Though the Bush administration handed Obama a big deficit, critics say he's only making the problem worse -- with his stimulus, health care reform plan and other proposals.

Opponents to his health care plan have started to flood town hall meetings across the country, publicly challenging Democrats on the bill as Republicans hammer its potential cost consequences.

Asked about Obama's economic comments from the Virginia rally, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said the president "gets fired up at things like that."

"I think the president gets fired up," Gibbs said Friday. "We get free advice every day from people that took the bus and rode it into the ditch and now want to give free advice on how you get it out." **

Click here to see the video of Obama at the Virginia rally.

* des fois qu'on aurait oublie

** la realite: La crise des subprimes

Obama’s Embrace of a Bush Tactic Riles Congress

By CHARLIE SAVAGE
Published: August 8, 2009

WASHINGTON — President Obama has issued signing statements claiming the authority to bypass dozens of provisions of bills enacted into law since he took office, provoking mounting criticism by lawmakers from both parties.

President George W. Bush, citing expansive theories about his constitutional powers, set off a national debate in 2006 over the propriety of signing statements — instructions to executive officials about how to interpret and put in place new laws — after he used them to assert that he could authorize officials to bypass laws like a torture ban and oversight provisions of the USA Patriot Act.

In the presidential campaign, Mr. Obama called Mr. Bush’s use of signing statements an “abuse,” and said he would issue them with greater restraint. The Obama administration says the signing statements the president has signed so far, challenging portions of five bills, have been based on mainstream interpretations of the Constitution and echo reservations routinely expressed by presidents of both parties.

Still, since taking office, Mr. Obama has relaxed his criteria for what kinds of signing statements are appropriate. And last month several leading Democrats — including Representatives Barney Frank of Massachusetts and David R. Obey of Wisconsin — sent a letter to Mr. Obama complaining about one of his signing statements.

“During the previous administration, all of us were critical of the president’s assertion that he could pick and choose which aspects of Congressional statutes he was required to enforce,” they wrote. “We were therefore chagrined to see you appear to express a similar attitude.”

They were reacting to a statement Mr. Obama issued after signing a bill that expanded assistance to the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank while requiring the administration to pressure the organizations to adopt certain policies. Mr. Obama said he could disregard the negotiation instructions under his power to conduct foreign relations.

The administration protested that it planned to carry out the provisions anyway and that its statement merely expressed a general principle. But Congress was not mollified. On July 9, in a bipartisan rebuke, the House of Representatives voted 429 to 2 to ban officials from using federal money to disobey the restrictions. And in their July 21 letter, Mr. Frank and Mr. Obey — the chairmen of the Financial Services Committee and the Appropriations Committee — asked Mr. Obama to stop issuing such signing statements, warning that Congress might not approve more money for the banking organizations unless he agreed.

In March, Senator Charles E. Grassley, Republican of Iowa, sent Mr. Obama a letter criticizing a signing statement that challenged a statute protecting government whistle-blowers who tell lawmakers privileged or “otherwise confidential” information. He accused Mr. Obama of chilling potential whistle-blowers, undermining the intent of Congress in a way that violated his campaign promises. The White House said it intended only to reaffirm similar reservations made by previous presidents.

Other laws Mr. Obama has said he need not obey as written include format requirements for budget requests, limits on whom he may appoint to a commission, and a restriction on putting troops under United Nations command.

After Mr. Bush transformed signing statements from an obscure tool into a commonplace term, Mr. Obama’s willingness to use them has disappointed some who had hoped he would roll back the practice, not entrench it.

“We didn’t think it was an appropriate practice when President Bush was doing it, and our policy is such that we don’t think it is an appropriate practice when President Obama is doing it,” said H. Thomas Wells, who just stepped down as president of the American Bar Association.

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Pour revenir sur cette histoire de repas scolaires :

C'est clair que pour les parents qui travaillent, c'est plus compliqué, vu le manque de temps, mais à nouveau, je pense que, jusqu'à un certain point, c'est avant tout une question de priorité.

Ma mère bossait et "malgré" ses trois enfants, nous n'avons quasiment jamais été à la cantine scolaire, elle préparait nos tartines et notre "10 heure", et le goûter... rien de très "sexy" (j'avoue qu'il m'est arrivé de râler plus d'une fois contre les "tartines au gouda" et autres classiques...), mais bon, c'était "comme ça et pas autrement". De même, les plats préparés n'avaient que très rarement droit de cité à la maison.

C'est une partie de l'éducation qui me semble importante, car comme on dit, ça reste et ça se transmet en grande partie.
L'éducation à la santé, ça commence aussi à la maison.
De toute manière, quand on voit la manière dont la plupart des gouvernements prennent cet aspect de la santé en compte et les mesures bidons qu'ils prennent... faut pas compter sur eux pour éduquer nos enfants et en faire des adultes sains de corps et d'esprit...

Alice

Une fois de plus, il ne faut pas utiliser des donnees qui correspondent a la Belgique et les appliquer aux Etats Unis.

Je ne connais aucune americaine travaillant a l'exterieur de chez elle qui revienne chez elle le midi et aucun petit americain n'ont plus. Les enfants sont emmenes a l'ecole le matin et ramenes a la maison, le soir, alors la solution du bon repas a la maison le midi est inexistante en l'occurence.

Il est question ici des Etats Unis, ou tout est distance donc temps de transport pour se rendre d'un endroit a une autre. La pluspart des familles partent le matin et reviennent a la maison le soir. Le probleme n'est d'ailleurs pas si different pour les banlieusards parisiens ou pour les familles habitant la campagne, je ne connais aucune Maman qui rentre chez elle nourrir ses enfants le midi ni aucun enfant qui soit ramener chez lui par bus!

Quant a votre Maman, felicitations! mais, et sans rien ne lui oter, elle avait certainement entre midi et 2h pour s'organiser et ne travailllait sans doute pas loin de votre maison. Seul un minimum d'Americaines qui travaillent ont le luxe de rentrer chez elle a l'heure du repas de midi et pour elles c'est uniquement parce bureau et maison sont proches l'un de l'autre.

Lorsque l'on passe jugement, il faut avoir un minimum de comprehension de la situation et non utiliser uniquement son environnement propre.

Une fois encore, cette organisation souhaite que les repas proposes aux enfants dans les ecoles soient pour tous des repas equilibres. Ou est le probleme? que quelqu'un ait ose faire reference aux enfants de NP?

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Un autre reproche est fait aux Americains d'utiliser des grosses voitures. Il n'y a pas ou peu de transports en commun excepte dans certains centres villes (les distances vous dis-je...) et ils passent 1h -1h30 et meme plus pour certains dans leur voiture, avec des temperatures exterieures extremement chaudes pour le Sud particulierement l'ete et extremement froides pour le Nord en hiver. Alors, s'ils aiment profiter d'un peu de confort...

De plus, les grosses voitures ne sont pas, il faut le repeter, toutes des 4x4, comme les media europeens souhaitent le faire croire parce que tous les SUV vendus en Europe en sont justement. Le pas est vite saute par les critiques qui une fois de plus ne connaissent absolument pas la vie americaine mais la juge selon leurs criteres.

Bonjour Sylvette,

Heu... dans ma famille, je n'ai jamais connu les "retours à la maison à midi pour déjeuner ensemble". J'ai du mal me faire comprendre quelque part.

Ma mère bossait toute la journée, ce qu'elle nous préparait, elle le faisait la veille au soir ou le matin, avant que nous partions à l'école. Mon père nous déposait en voiture le matin, le soir, nous rentrions en bus scolaire.
Ma mère a été infirmière jusqu'à la naissance de son 3è enfant et ensuite prof, avec des horaires quand même allégés (elle était de retour à la maison à 17h00 au plus tard, et présente lors des vacances scolaires). Elle ne conduisait pas et se déplaçait donc uniquement en transport en commun, sur la région Bruxelloise.

Je ne connais pas non plus le luxe de pouvoir rentrer chez moi à midi pour manger et/ou faire manger mes enfants... d'ailleurs, ça m'ennuyerait plus qu'autre chose, "switcher" en plein milieu de journée du professionnel au familial, je trouve ça trop fatiguant intellectuellement, surtout avec des enfants en bas âge...

Je suis la première à promouvoir des repas équilibrés dans les écoles, malheureusement, ce n'est que rarement le cas, en plus, souvent, cela représente un budget conséquent pour les familles où il y a plusieurs enfants, mais trop "riche", ou plutôt, pas "assez pauvre" pour pouvoir revendiquer des aides sociales en tout genre...

Ce que je critiquais n'était pas ici le "mode de vie américain" (d'abord, il n'y en a pas qu'un seul), il me suffit de voir comment ça se passe ici en Belgique pour voir que partout on retrouve le même genre de "dérives" et/ ou de manquements, aussi bien de la part de certaines familles que des autorités...

Alice

Ne le prenez pas mal mais lorsque vous avez ecrit:

Ma mère bossait et "malgré" ses trois enfants, nous n'avons quasiment jamais été à la cantine scolaire, elle préparait nos tartines et notre "10 heure", et le goûter... rien de très "sexy" (j'avoue qu'il m'est arrivé de râler plus d'une fois contre les "tartines au gouda" et autres classiques...), mais bon, c'était "comme ça et pas autrement". De même, les plats préparés n'avaient que très rarement droit de cité à la maison.

J'avoue que je n'avais pas compris que les "tartines au gouda" etaient en guise de repas de midi. Alors dans ce cas, je ne vois pas ce qu'on reproche aux mamans americaines qui preparent pour leurs enfants des PB&J (Peanut butter and Jelly sandwich), d'ailleurs excellents pour la sante)!

Ceci dit, cette conversation est partie d'un article concernant une organisation qui demande a ce que la nourriture proposee dans les ecoles soit bonne pour la sante des enfants, une fois de plus Ou est le probleme si ca peut aider les parents?

Je rappelle tout de meme que la journee commence tres tot pour les petits Americains et que les mamans doivent etre au travail entre 8.30 et 9h selon la societe et qu'elles ont souvent 45 minutes a 1 h de route a faire.

2008-2009

School Level	Start Time	Ending Time
Prekindergarten, A.M.	7:45 a.m	10:45 a.m
Prekindergarten, P.M.	12:00 noon	3:00 p.m.
Elementary Schools	7:45 a.m.	2:45 p.m.
Middle Schools	8:15 a.m.	3:45 p.m.
High Schools	8:15 a.m.	3:45 p.m.
Singley Academy	7:30 a.m.	2:30 or 4:05 p.m.

Apparemment, NP avait fait une promesse a cette organisation pendant la campagne electorale, promesse qu'il n'a pas tenue, et elle lui est rappelee. C'est tout.

Beaucoup ont vote pour lui croyant a son message de CHANGEment et s'apercoivent que ce n'etait que ca: des mots.

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Je ne connais pas non plus le luxe de pouvoir rentrer chez moi à midi pour manger et/ou faire manger mes enfants... d'ailleurs, ça m'ennuyerait plus qu'autre chose, "switcher" en plein milieu de journée du professionnel au familial, je trouve ça trop fatiguant intellectuellement, surtout avec des enfants en bas âge...

Je vous comprends parfaitement, toutefois, des maman qui elles s'ennuyent a rentrer chez elle le midi pour faire manger leurs enfants et passer du temps avec eux, pourraient trouver a redire au fait que vous ne le fassiez pas.

Comme quoi, lorsqu'on passe jugement sur les autres, il faut bien realiser que les autres puissent en faire autant a son egard.

Contrairement a la reputation qui lui est faite par les autres media et par la gauche, l'audimat de FOX News continue a prouver, et de facon de plus en plus claire, que cette chaine est regardee par tous ceux qui souhaitent reellement etre informes.

White House Objects to Poster That Invokes Obama Children



Jasmine Messiah, 8, says her Florida school doesn't offer vegan or vegetarian options for lunch. (Physicians Committee For Respon

By Kate Kilpatrick and Ruth McCann

Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, August 11, 2009

The posters went up last week, 14 in Union Station. On each of the large displays, a thought bubble rises up from a picture of a beautiful 8-year-old: "President Obama's daughters get healthy school lunches. Why don't I?"

A Washington nonprofit that advocates nutrition-policy reform paid $20,000 to get its message across and carefully maneuvered Metro's tangle of regulations to display its posters. Metro gave it a go -- but the White House did not, according to the group. Within 24 hours of the signs' appearance, the White House asked the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine to take down the ads, which feature Jasmine Messiah, a vegetarian who attends a Miami-Dade County public school that, she says, offers no vegetarian or vegan lunch options.

The Physicians Committee has declined to take down the posters.

PCRM President Neal Barnard, a nutrition researcher, says he received a phone call regarding the posters Aug. 4 (a day after they went up) from Associate Counsel Karen Dunn and Deputy Associate Counsel Ian Bassin.

"They're very nice people. I like them a lot," Barnard says. "But they called and said: Please take those down, you can't mention the kids and so forth. . . . They felt that mentioning the president's children was off-limits. They said [they're] not going to allow the use of their daughters as leverage."

The fact that the poster mentions the president's children has been the main point of contention, though neither the children's names nor their images appear. That reaction doesn't come as a complete surprise; when Ty Inc. marketed dolls in January named Sweet Sasha and Marvelous Malia, the first lady made her objections clear, and the toy company stopped using the girls' names. The First Lady's Office declined to comment for this story.

To Frank Luntz, a Republican political consultant, the White House's response to the posters is hardly shocking.

"The children of the president are always off-limits. Always. No exceptions," Luntz says. "No ifs, ands or buts. And while it may draw short-term attention to the issue, the White House will hate the organization for it. And I assure you they will be punished. You don't mess with the president's children. It's an unwritten rule."

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Eunice Kennedy Shriver, Founder of Special Olympics, Dies at Age 88, Family Says

Il est reproche aux personnes participant aux reunions municipales d'etre organisees.

et ca c'est quoi?

Obama takes aim at health foesBy NIA-MALIKA HENDERSON | 8/11/09 3:07 PM












Voyons comment les Americains vont reagir a ces representations electorales.

La majorite des Americains ne le deteste pas personnellement, ce sont ses idees dont elle ne veut pas et il n'est plus question de gagner des voix a une election.. NP nous rappelle a chaque occasion, qu': "en tant que President...." on pourrait supputer qu'il l'ait compris! BEn, ca n'est pas certain.

Tiens, je ne suis pas la seule!!!

Clinton's Outburst in Congo Raises Concerns About Her Diplomatic Skills

While Secretary Clinton's reaction to a question in Congo may not have any political repercussions, some foreign policy analysts say it reflects her limitations as a diplomat.



FOXNews.com

Tuesday, August 11, 2009


In case it wasn't clear before, Hillary Clinton -- not her husband -- is the nation's top diplomat.
The secretary of state curtly sent that message to a Congolese university student who asked her Monday through a translator what "Mr. Clinton" thinks about China's growing influence.
Turns out, though, the student was trying to ask what President Obama thought.

Some foreign policy analysts said while her reaction may not have any political repercussions, it reflects her limitations as a diplomat.

"If a student in the Congo can get under your skin with a mistranslation and you're unable to deflect it in a gracious diplomatic way, one gets a little concerned when an issue of more consequence comes along and she might indulge in a personal perspective as opposed to something that's good for the country as a whole," said Robert Schadler, senior fellow in public diplomacy at the American Foreign Policy Council.

"It's inappropriate for a diplomat to be so harshly personal," Schadler added. "You can't imagine the great secretaries of state with expressing that unnecessary personal view when they would be overseas and talking to a foreign audience."

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Selon les economistes, la recession est terminee

Report: Economists Say Recession Over, Want Bernanke to Stay

Economists date the start of the recession to December 2007 -- defining much of Ben Bernanke's term as Federal Reserve chairman -- and a majority in a Wall Street Journal survey agree that the recession is coming to an end.

FOXNews.com

Tuesday, August 11, 2009

Is the recession over? Economists polled by the Wall Street Journal say yes, and they suggest that's a big reason why Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke should stay.

The Journal reports that the experts are overwhelmingly in favor of President Obama asking Bernanke to stay on for another four-year term when his current term ends Jan. 31. Bernanke has been a key figure in the government's efforts to reverse the country's economic meltdown, a role that has earned him some criticism but also praise for handling of the crisis.

Economists date the start of the recession to December 2007 -- defining much of Bernanke's term, which started in early 2006 -- and a majority agree that the recession is coming to an end.
Bernanke "deserves a lot of credit for stabilizing the financial markets," Joseph Carson of AllianceBernstein told the Journal.

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The Health-Care Grail

A public policy debate takes on religious overtones.
AP

Wednesday, August 12, 2009

“I believe that by the end of my first term in office that we will have a universal health-care system instituted in this country. That is a commitment that I’ve made, and it is a commitment I want to be held accountable for.”

The words belong to Barack Obama, and he spoke them in April 2007—the last time he visited Portsmouth, N.H., for a town-hall meeting on health care. The Associated Press reported the crowd that day “was almost single-mindedly focused on a single-payer system.” Candidate Obama asked if they would agree to much higher taxes for such a system. And he emphasized that he would remain open to changes even after he released his plan.

Today, a very different Mr. Obama returns to Portsmouth for another town hall on health care. Gone is the demand that supporters acknowledge the implications of their plans (e.g., higher taxes). Gone too is the openness to good ideas from others. In their place is a my-way-or-the-highway president who impugns the character and motives of dissenters.

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Different people have different objections to these proposals, almost all practical. Many loathe the status quo and advance reforms that would make health care more market-friendly and coverage more affordable—especially for the working poor. The questions they ask are likewise grounded in common sense: “What will it cost?” “How will we pay for it?” and “Is the public option a Trojan Horse for a single-payer system, just as Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank suggests?”

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Cost is probably the biggest objection. When Mr. Obama first proposed his overhaul, he justified it on the grounds that it would bring costs down. Now the Congressional Budget Office says costs are likely to go up. So what does the president do? He calls the CBO director onto the Oval Office carpet—a virtually unprecedented White House intrusion into a nonpartisan congressional institution.

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“Think of public education,” says James Capretta, a health-care expert at the Washington-based Ethics and Public Policy Center. “They want to do for health care what they’ve done for education—establish a government-run, universal system. Once in place, they will defend such a system whether or not it delivers the results it promised.”

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L'AARP (Association des Retraites - ou non d'ailleurs mais bon...) fait tout ce qu'elle peut pour s'extirper d'une apparence de soutien du programme sante de NP (nombreux sont les membres qui ont annule leur carte) et que fait NP? Il annonce officiellement qu'en fait l'AARP est bien a bord avec lui!

Obama Claim of AARP Endorsement 'Inaccurate'

President Obama went too far when he said the seniors lobby had endorsed the legislation pending in Congress, the group's chief officer said Tuesday.

AP
Wednesday, August 12, 2009

A group usually seen as one of Barack Obama's allies in the health care debate -- AARP -- says the president went too far Tuesday when he said the seniors lobby had endorsed the legislation pending in Congress.

AARP is sensitive to the issue because polls show that Medicare beneficiaries are worried their health care program will be cut to subsidize coverage for the uninsured.

At the town hall in Portsmouth, N.H., Obama said, "We have the AARP onboard because they know this is a good deal for our seniors." He added, "AARP would not be endorsing a bill if it was undermining Medicare."

But Tom Nelson, AARP's chief operating officer, said, "Indications that we have endorsed any of the major health care reform bills currently under consideration in Congress are inaccurate."

Like Obama, AARP wants action this year to cover the uninsured and restrain health care costs, but the organization has refrained from endorsing legislation. Nelson said AARP would not endorse a bill that reduces Medicare benefits.

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Oups...

Dems face senior angst on health care

By CHRIS FRATES & VICTORIA MCGRANE | 8/12/09 4:35 AM EDT


Frustrated older Americans are packing the town halls on health care. Photo: AP

Democrats have a senior citizen problem.

Frustrated older Americans are packing the town halls on health care. They are incredibly passionate about their Medicare benefits. Polls show senior citizens largely disapprove of health care reform ideas so far.

And of course, they vote — in larger numbers than any other demographic.

But so far, Democrats have focused much of their health care sales pitch on middle-class Americans and the uninsured — a slight that has been noticed by senior citizens, who hold great influence with members of Congress.

At his Tuesday town hall event in New Hampshire, President Barack Obama made a point to reach out to seniors, noting the low support in polls for his health care proposals.

“We are not talking about cutting Medicare benefits,” Obama said, trying to assuage the audience.

But Obama is talking about finding hundreds of billions in savings from Medicare — cuts supporters say will trim fat from the program — including slashing $156 billion in subsidies to Medicare Advantage, a privately-administered Medicare program.

“Seniors are one of the most attentive and engaged constituencies, especially on health care issues, and we’ve seen that in the Medicare Advantage programs,” said Robert Zirkelbach, a spokesman for America’s Health Insurance Plans.

A July 31 Gallup poll found that just 20 percent of Americans aged 65 and older believe health care reform would improve their own situation, noticeably lower than the 27 percent of 18- to 49-year olds and 26 percent of 50 to 64-year olds who say the same.

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Apres avoir ete insultes ("un-American" nombreux parmi eux des Veterans; manipules, perroquets etc.. etc..) les personnes du 3eme age traites comme des enfants par un senatrice... Le porte-parole de la Maison Blanche met la responsabilite des effets de colere des seniors sur ... les emissions de tele du cable.


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Un effet secondaire que je n'ai lu nullepart d'une diminution de la couverture MEDICARE pour les patients du 3eme et 4eme age: la majorite pourra non seulement se soigner mais survivre independamment. Les enfant vont devoir les prendre en charge. Ca ajoute aux impots INEVITABLES pour la classe moyenne - pas seulement riche - on comprend mieux la colere de ces personnes.

Il ne faut pas oublier non plus qu'en dehors du fait que les seniors aient cotise toute leur vie sur leurs salaires (et beaucoup d'entre eux travaillaient 2 et meme 3 jobs pour parvenir au reve americain), ils avaient egalement mis de cote une retraite personnelle, retraite que beaucoup ont perdu.

Finalement, lorsque l'on entend le gouvernement Obama nous dire que les Republicains utilisent des tactiques pour mettre la peur au corps des Americains, ce meme gouvernement nous a rappele recemment que la derniere annee des vieillards coute 1/4 des frais de remboursements et qu'il etait dans l'interet de tous que les seniors revoient leur situation medicale de "fin de vie" avec les specialistes.

Vous comprendrez ce que vous voudrez...

O.K. sorry,


J'ai du me tromper....
"Tous pour un , un pour tous, c'est une autre histoire"....






UN PEU RADINS ET PAS TRÈS GÉNÉREUX CES AMÉRICAINS, ILS N'ACCEPTENT PAS DE SOIGNER GRATUITEMENT LEURS CONCITOYENS MAIS NÉGOCIENT À CRÉDIT IREMBOURSABLES DES MILLIARDS DE $ EN ARMES !!!!

Sylvette a écrit:

Dems face senior angst on health care


By CHRIS FRATES & VICTORIA MCGRANE | 8/12/09 4:35 AM EDT

Frustrated older Americans are packing the town halls on health care. Photo: AP



Democrats have a senior citizen problem.


Frustrated older Americans are packing the town halls on health care. They are incredibly passionate about their Medicare benefits. Polls show senior citizens largely disapprove of health care reform ideas so far.


And of course, they vote — in larger numbers than any other demographic.


But so far, Democrats have focused much of their health care sales pitch on middle-class Americans and the uninsured — a slight that has been noticed by senior citizens, who hold great influence with members of Congress.


At his Tuesday town hall event in New Hampshire, President Barack Obama made a point to reach out to seniors, noting the low support in polls for his health care proposals.


“We are not talking about cutting Medicare benefits,” Obama said, trying to assuage the audience.

But Obama is talking about finding hundreds of billions in savings from Medicare — cuts supporters say will trim fat from the program — including slashing $156 billion in subsidies to Medicare Advantage, a privately-administered Medicare program.


“Seniors are one of the most attentive and engaged constituencies, especially on health care issues, and we’ve seen that in the Medicare Advantage programs,” said Robert Zirkelbach, a spokesman for America’s Health Insurance Plans.


A July 31 Gallup poll found that just 20 percent of Americans aged 65 and older believe health care reform would improve their own situation, noticeably lower than the 27 percent of 18- to 49-year olds and 26 percent of 50 to 64-year olds who say the same.



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Apres avoir ete insultes ("un-American" nombreux parmi eux des Veterans; manipules, perroquets etc.. etc..) les personnes du 3eme age traites comme des enfants par un senatrice... Le porte-parole de la Maison Blanche met la responsabilite des effets de colere des seniors sur ... les emissions de tele du cable.

Blaming Cable TV

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Un effet secondaire que je n'ai lu nullepart et qui serait la consequence d'une diminution de la couverture MEDICARE pour les patients du 3eme et 4eme age: la majorite des anciens ne va plus pouvoir non seulement se soigner mais survivre independamment. Les enfant vont devoir les prendre en charge. Ca ajoute aux impots INEVITABLES, on comprend mieux la colere de ces personnes.

Il ne faut pas oublier non plus qu'en dehors du fait que les seniors aient cotise toute leur vie sur leurs salaires (et beaucoup d'entre eux travaillaient 2 et meme 3 jobs pour parvenir au reve americain), ils avaient egalement mis de cote une retraite personnelle, retraite que beaucoup ont perdu.

Finalement, lorsque l'on entend le gouvernement Obama nous dire que les Republicains utilisent des tactiques pour mettre la peur au corps des Americains, ce meme gouvernement nous a rappele dernierement que la derniere annee des vieillards coutent 1/4 des frais de remboursements et qu'il etait dans l'interet de tous que les seniors revoient leur situation medicale de "fin de vie" avec les specialistes. Vous comprendrez ce que vous voudrez...

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Sylvette a écrit:

Dems face senior angst on health care

By CHRIS FRATES & VICTORIA MCGRANE | 8/12/09 4:35 AM EDT

Frustrated older Americans are packing the town halls on health care. Photo: AP

Democrats have a senior citizen problem.

Frustrated older Americans are packing the town halls on health care. They are incredibly passionate about their Medicare benefits. Polls show senior citizens largely disapprove of health care reform ideas so far.

And of course, they vote — in larger numbers than any other demographic.

But so far, Democrats have focused much of their health care sales pitch on middle-class Americans and the uninsured — a slight that has been noticed by senior citizens, who hold great influence with members of Congress.

At his Tuesday town hall event in New Hampshire, President Barack Obama made a point to reach out to seniors, noting the low support in polls for his health care proposals.

“We are not talking about cutting Medicare benefits,” Obama said, trying to assuage the audience.

But Obama is talking about finding hundreds of billions in savings from Medicare — cuts supporters say will trim fat from the program — including slashing $156 billion in subsidies to Medicare Advantage, a privately-administered Medicare program.

“Seniors are one of the most attentive and engaged constituencies, especially on health care issues, and we’ve seen that in the Medicare Advantage programs,” said Robert Zirkelbach, a spokesman for America’s Health Insurance Plans.

A July 31 Gallup poll found that just 20 percent of Americans aged 65 and older believe health care reform would improve their own situation, noticeably lower than the 27 percent of 18- to 49-year olds and 26 percent of 50 to 64-year olds who say the same.

...

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Apres avoir ete insultes ("un-American" nombreux parmi eux des Veterans; manipules, perroquets etc.. etc..) les personnes du 3eme age traites comme des enfants par un senatrice... Le porte-parole de la Maison Blanche met la responsabilite des effets de colere des seniors sur ... les emissions de tele du cable.

Blaming Cable TV

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Un effet secondaire que je n'ai lu nullepart d'une diminution de la couverture MEDICARE pour les patients du 3eme et 4eme age: la majorite pourra non seulement se soigner mais survivre independamment. Les enfant vont devoir les prendre en charge. Ca ajoute aux impots INEVITABLES pour la classe moyenne - pas seulement riche - on comprend mieux la colere de ces personnes.

Il ne faut pas oublier non plus qu'en dehors du fait que les seniors aient cotise toute leur vie sur leurs salaires (et beaucoup d'entre eux travaillaient 2 et meme 3 jobs pour parvenir au reve americain), ils avaient egalement mis de cote une retraite personnelle, retraite que beaucoup ont perdu.

Finalement, lorsque l'on entend le gouvernement Obama nous dire que les Republicains utilisent des tactiques pour mettre la peur au corps des Americains, ce meme gouvernement nous a rappele recemment que la derniere annee des vieillards coute 1/4 des frais de remboursements et qu'il etait dans l'interet de tous que les seniors revoient leur situation medicale de "fin de vie" avec les specialistes.

Vous comprendrez ce que vous voudrez...

UN PEU RADINS ET PAS TRÈS GÉNÉREUX CES AMÉRICAINS, ILS N'ACCEPTENT PAS DE SOIGNER GRATUITEMENT LEURS CONCITOYENS MAIS NÉGOCIENT À CRÉDIT IREMBOURSABLES DES MILLIARDS DE $ EN ARMES !!!!





- Alors oui, les Etats Unis s'arment, parce que l'Europe ne le fait pas

- Quant au systeme francais (celui que je connais le mieux) il marche tellement bien maintenant, qu'on peut en effet le recommander.

Ce matin les economistes nous annoncaient dans un article la fin de la recession. Maintenant, il serait question d'une SECONDE recession. ahahhh

U.S. may face second recession: Harvard's Rogoff
Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:43pm EDT


By Walden Siew
BOSTON (Reuters) - The United States faces a prolonged period of sluggish growth and perhaps another recession in the next five years, Harvard University economist Kenneth Rogoff said on Tuesday.

The U.S. recession that began in December 2007 is close to an end, and economic growth will hover near a sluggish 2 percent for the next five to seven years, he said.

"We're going to be Japan-light," he said in an interview, referring to Japan's years of sub-par growth after its financial crisis of the 1990s. "We won't have a lost decade, but we will face some of the same challenges."

Rogoff, a former International Monetary Fund chief economist and an expert on banking crises, said the United States faces a 50-50 chance of a second recession in the next five years.

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Il doit etre Normand ce monsieur.